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[–] [email protected] 241 points 5 months ago (3 children)

OF COURSE this doesn’t apply to the UK, giving me yet another reason to wish kidney stones upon the architects of Brexit.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the haunted Victorian pencil that is Jacob Rees-Mogg said that the UK not having universal USB-C was a "Brexit benefit". God help us all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Yeah but he only says that sort of thing because he thinks that anything to electronic is voodoo magic.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

....THE ARISTOCRATS!

did i do it right?

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[–] sir_reginald 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I mean, I'm sure they sell Android phones in the UK. Why do you buy Apple products if you are aware of their monopolistic practices that have to be battled with legislation?

[–] smolyeet 11 points 5 months ago

not OP, but for me, using an iPhone and wishing it had a few features android had feels a lot better than using android and wishing it had features iOS does. It’s not like they both don’t participate in monopolistic practices

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[–] EarMaster 194 points 5 months ago (11 children)

That way Firefox has to submit a different app for Europe, splitting its userbase and making it more complicated for developers. They are pulling every trick they can...

[–] [email protected] 110 points 5 months ago (2 children)

True, but Firefox has a loyal fanbase.

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[–] Ghostalmedia 39 points 5 months ago

If this was worldwide it would be the same amount QA work. The new rendering engine is the only thing worth paying attention to.

Almost no one is going to spend time QAing non-European Firefox. Outside of Europe it is basically just a glorified Safari WebView.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Crapple at it again

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago

The only way Apple can make good changes is if the EU forces them to make good changes.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apple can be so laughably pathetic at times

[–] TrickDacy 23 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Other than creating the M1/M2 CPUs, when in the last 20 years haven't they been? Fuck apple.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The unibody MBPs were solid for the most part. From 2008 to 2012 Apple actually made really good, decently priced, upgradeable, virtually indestructible Unix workstations; I'll give them that.

Too bad they then made the Retina generation of MBPs, which dropped most of what made the unibodies great and turned them from Unix workhorses to overpriced prosumer devices. And that's where they lived ever since.

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[–] flames5123 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I liked when they wrote a letter to the federal government telling them to fuck off with their backdoor request.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago

It's amazing how much of the bare minimum they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got so excited for the headline until I saw the parentheses 😭

[–] micka190 31 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Same. Overall, I'm happy with my iPhone, but not having an actual browser with an actual ad blocker (uBlock Origins) is really painful. I've had to live with ProtonVPN's ad blocking, but that only prevents sites from loading, it doesn't hide the actual ad links...

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh my god just let me use my fucking Firefox plugins, Apple. 😑

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[–] asdfasdfasdf 56 points 5 months ago (12 children)

It perplexes me that people choose to use a platform which won't let even let them choose how a browser works.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Main problem is that Android sucks too. The mobile OS market is a burning dumpster fire controlled by two of the biggest companies in the world.
My point is I use arch btw and I'd like to do so on my phone as well. (With it still being practical)

[–] asdfasdfasdf 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Android is far more free than iOS, and it's based on open source so pretty easy to remove all Google stuff if you care about it. But by default you can side load whatever you want.

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[–] dunestorm 55 points 5 months ago (6 children)

This only in the EU thing is going to bite them in the ass hard. You’re going to get App developers pretending to operate in the EU or moving there just to have more creative freedom.

Users will also find ways of doing the exact same. You can’t have one rule for one group of people and different rules for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

They may eventually get dragged there kicking and screaming but will milk consumers in other markets for every penny they can before that happens

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Just a wild guess, but I think Apple is fully aware of this. They are intentionally keeping it separate to set a precedence that they will not bend over and let EU dictate and for the rest of the world to reap the benefit. Same with their decision to fine users for sideloading. They know it's a losing battle they are just trying to make it as difficult as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago

Mozilla itself lashed out at this decision, as it means they have to maintain both Gecko (for EU) and WebKit (for everybody else) editions of the browser.

This is, in essence, malicious compliance.

[–] ladicius 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

What has the EU ever done for us?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] hperrin 28 points 5 months ago (31 children)

Please let this come to the US. Safari (WebKit) is so far behind.

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[–] CriticalMiss 26 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How will that work? Firefox is gonna maintain two different builds?

[–] billiam0202 43 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Three, technically:

  • Firefox for Android
  • Firefox for iOS EU
  • Firefox for iOS US
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's also Firefox Beta, Nightly and Focus.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Not at all the same. These are three outputs from the same build process and code base. Maintaining a build with WebKit and one with Mozilla’s own rendering engine is like running a different team.

It’s almost as if Apple is making this difficult.

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[–] cheesorist 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

ah yes, there is only iOS EU and US

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[–] AlmightySnoo 25 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Everyone should just move to the EU at this rate

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The fact chromium based browser are going to be allowed as well makes me nervous.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Apple. I live in the US. I'm thinking of replacing my current iPad with another tablet. If you let me have real Firefox, I'll probably buy a $750 iPad with a 1500% storage markup as my next tablet. If not, I'll choose an Android tablet. It's so simple, Apple. Huge profit or a lost customer. All because of something so easy to implement.

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[–] TCB13 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Expected... and then people criticize me when I say they'll get around the sideload requirement by simply requiring a special certificate / payment / vetting process. lol

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

So Firefox gets to run extensions now? Cool! I've missed using my iPad for youtube

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