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[–] andros_rex 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

🫄Also a pregnant person option.

As a trans guy that does want to carry my own someday, it’s kinda cute and the fact that people see it on their keypad will probably make my life easier when I get to that point.

[–] FlatFootFox 50 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ah yeah, the Unicode Consortium ran into an issue a while back where they realized their emoji descriptors weren’t specific enough and were leading to confusion in cross-platform conversations. Apple used to have a woman in a red dress for “Dancer”, while most Android distributions showed a man in a disco suit. They started getting more specific in their emoji definitions and in 2016 and introduced a few emoji pairs like “Woman Dancing” and “Man Dancing” to clear up the existing confusion.

By 2019 the emoji concepts which were gendered (dancing, etc.) and non-gendered (skiing, surfing, etc.) had become pretty arbitrary. They decided to standardize offering a male, female, and generic version of every human emoji. It’s, you know, a standard, so they generally don’t make that many exceptions. Even emoji like “Santa Claus” have a female “Mrs. Claus” and a generic “Claus” options.

[–] Stovetop 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plus some trans men can still get pregnant so it's not like it's that ludicrous an inclusion.

[–] FlatFootFox 8 points 10 months ago

Hell yeah. 🙌

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

To expand on that, the way they decided to implement emoji in a simple, flexible and extendable way, was to combine emoji codes.

You have the code for pregnant person and combine it with the code for the male or female symbol emoji, to make the pregnant man or women emoji. So in a way, it's easier to support all variations than only some.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

So in a way, it's easier to support all variations than only some.

Words to live by really

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

They also did the same regarding race. Used to be that person emojis were always non-descript in that regard. Most implementations used Simpsons-yellow skin, and Android used a green, non-humanoid character.

Nowadays, the more recent human emojis tend to have a bunch of realistic skin tone options as well as Simpsons-yellow default, but they haven't gone back and made those options for many of the older emojis.

[–] VelveteenUnderground 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wait until you see the pregnant woman emoji

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Big if true.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

In Czechia, we call it average Czech man older than 40 years

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's specifically for when you need to mention the 1994 Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger cult classic comedy Junior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] Bye 16 points 10 months ago

I use it for “damn I just ate a ton of tacos” 🫃🌮

[–] teft 13 points 10 months ago

Its for after turkey day conversations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Yes, it's been there for a while

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not all pregnant people have long hair, what a surprise

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

No, it’s not the generic “pregnant person” emoji, it’s explicitly a “pregnant man” emoji. It’s technically a “man emoji” a “pregnant emoji” and a combining mark. That’s what allows the skin colors and flags to work as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Ya ya, we’ve all seen Junior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's strange. I went to use it on my android phone and only the woman appeared. But in the sync app, there are 3 options. And if I copy/paste the pregnant man emoji from sync to messages, it works fine. So that means the code is there for Android, but they intentionally hide it? I wonder why. Maybe they think it's too weird?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

On my pixel phone the other versions are hidden under long press.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, to implement the emoji standard, they have to have something there. If they left it blank it would look messy if someone ever used it.

But yeah, Gboard doesn't let you use all emojis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Can't find it on MS Swift as well, which is weird 🤔

[–] TootSweet -1 points 10 months ago

Huh. It's not even a composition. That's wild.