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[–] [email protected] 103 points 6 months ago

Ahh yes, Big Bend, the tiny town where businesses fly "FUCK JOE BIDEN" flags. Surely this is place for adults with reasonable opinions.

[–] captainjaneway 92 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

BIG BEND, Wis. (WISN) - Five members of a local police department quit on the same day. Those five represent nearly half of the department. The Village of Big Bend announced the resignations on its Facebook page. ... Anderson says the Village president’s plan to dissolve the Fire and Police Commission in early December was the last straw for him and the five officers who quit.

It's funny that these "heroes" can't even handle public scrutiny. Imagine if nurses quit every time a hospital made bad organizational or budgetary choices. If your job is actually important for a community, you don't quit it. You can't quit it. It's a duty and a responsibility to your fellow man. These cops are quitting over political discourse. If that's all it takes, sounds like they weren't doing much to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Here are some practice questions for the interview:

Can you fire a gun indiscriminately?
Are you comfortable using civil forfeiture to rob people?
You see a black person, do you: A - Start blasting? B - Severely beat them with your baton? C - Beat them with the baton and then start blasting?

[–] Kiwi 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And then the crime rate fell

[–] littlebluespark 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's funny, I seem to recall multiple communities throughout history with a surplus of "warriors" finding themselves suddenly plagued by banditry. No correlation, though. Obviously.

[–] surewhynotlem 22 points 6 months ago

The crime rate will stay the same. The only change is five fewer people with immunity.

[–] DigitalTraveler42 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah because if there's nobody to report crime to then there's no crimes! /s

[–] Ejh3k 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sure wish they gave more information about led to all this. It's incredibly vague, and what if I want half of my town's cops to quit?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"The Village Board decided to disband the police department and after public pressure, reversed their decision, but the damage was already done."

Pretty brief and with no indication of why this action was taking place.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's not all that uncommon for villages and towns to disband their police department and rely instead on county police.

My guess is it all comes down to money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There is a lot of context that is missing from this story.

On one end, the board could be in the right, if you only have a township of a couple dozen, you don't exactly need a police force of 10 people if you are only getting one or two calls, maybe, a day.

That being said, there is a concern here that this will effect response time for emergencies. Which is a valid concern, for emergency services. How much a concern for police is just where more context is needed

Of course this is all happening with the shadow of doubt to this story that makes it seem like there were prior agreements before one of the board members passed away.

[–] Serinus 6 points 6 months ago

that this will effect response time for emergencies.

How long do you think it'll take them to shoot my dog now?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Apparently the plan was to disband the local department and merge it into the department of a neighboring area, then split the cost in an effort to lower the overall operating costs of police services in the area.

The other city they were going to do this with declined the deal and so this town had to keep their local force in tact.

Upon hearing that the city they worked for was trying to eliminate their jobs, a bunch quit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

And that's the thing. These cops resigned. Guess where they're headed? A nearby police agency of some kind. This makes no difference.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah, there's definitely more going on that the article isn't mentioning (I guess local news has to make sure they don't get on the cops' bad side).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From a different source ...

Weeks after an effort to disband the Big Bend Police Department failed and the village board signed a contract to keep the force, a mass exodus. Half the department has resigned. The head of Big Bend's Police and Fire Commission has also left.

"I am tired of the harassment of this village board and all the crap that I've been dealing with throughout the years," said Jamie Soneberg, former Big Bend police officer to the village board on Dec. 7, 2023.

"It's bound to happen with the way they've been treated over the years," said Josh Grover, Big Bend Village Trustee who has consistently sided with the police.

The large departure leaves Big Bend with a big hole to fill. Only five officers remain, and just one of them is full time.

"That was crazy and who's gonna be running our force and what police officers do we have left? It's just nuts," said Kristle Morin, Big Bend resident. Morin has lived in Big Bend her entire life and says it's never been like this.

Social media has been blowing up with comments, complimenting the officers and attacking the village board.

This fall, a majority of board members swiftly and silently pressed for a shared police services contract with neighboring Vernon, but the deal fell through because Vernon said no.

Signs first went up in September when the controversy began, and the community wanted to show support. Well, the board ultimately voted to keep its police force intact for another year, but the signs of support remain.

"The last few months have been nothing but attack on public safety, attack on public safety. They can't get the police force gone, so then they attack the police and fire commission," said Trustee Grover.

This month, the board took initial steps that could ultimately lead them to do away with their police and fire commission. This, after conflict about who should name a successor to former Big Bend Police Chief Don Gaglione who passed away suddenly in October.

"I said the village president does not have the authority to appoint anyone. It's the fire and police commission's duty and responsibility to appoint the next person in line." Mark Andersen runs All Occasions Catering and Bubbs Barbecue in Big Bend. He was also the head of the Big Bend Police and Fire Commission for two and a half years.

A week later, the head of the commission resigned.

"There is a reason why all these things are happening. There's so much distrust between the village board and the fire and police departments themselves," said Andersen.

The residents, caught in the middle, sadly losing that small town feel, where they could call out a friendly 'hello' to officers, like Chief Gaglione, who they knew by name.

"I was gonna do this and I stayed into this in remembrance of the chief. I was not going to allow this to happen and go forward and have his name taken in vain," said Andersen.

[–] Ejh3k 5 points 6 months ago

Ah. So just gross incompetence at all levels by everyone. Gotcha.

[–] netburnr 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Fire and Police Commission chairman also quit.

Why is this one person running both police and fire, that seems wrong.

[–] LowtierComputer 27 points 6 months ago

I'm the area I worked, fire and police were government funded, while EMS was not.

[–] PP_BOY_ 42 points 6 months ago

🎵whoa, we're halfway there🎵

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

And nothing of value was lost.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They should be investigated. Surely they were up to something.

[–] littlebluespark 28 points 6 months ago

Don't worry. They investigated each other and found no wrongdoing, so that's all taken care of. Move along.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Well yeah, 5 out of 11 people resigned after they were initially being disbanded and then told nevermind? Not surprising. Doesn't matter how you feel about the police, that's not job security anyone would want to stick around for.

[–] FoolishSage 12 points 6 months ago

Two full-time and three part-time

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Big Bend Police Force to be replaced with a weekly drunk driving club...

[–] superduperenigma 10 points 6 months ago

It's the same picture