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[–] hperrin 36 points 11 months ago

If a company can’t pay their workers a livable wage, then they shouldn’t be in business.

[–] db2 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, guess I'm done ordering from there now.

[–] Serinus 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I expect I'll never use door dash or similar services. The quality is so low and the price is so high.

If I had to get something delivered, it'd be a pizza. Well, you know, one that still has its own drivers.

[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist 8 points 11 months ago

As a former Pizza Hut/Papa John's/Marco's/Hungry Howie's driver, totally fine with this. Food delivery drivers are typically underpaid, especially considering how expensive cars are.

I kinda want to say that delivery services are charging what delivery should cost to compensate drivers fairly, but I don't know how much of the customer pays go to the drivers and how much the delivery service keeps. I wouldn't mind the upcharge on menu items if the driver got paid well.

[–] sploosh 3 points 11 months ago

The price is high and the person doing the work is paid barely any of it - the tip is where most of the money comes from for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why were you ordering from them to begin with? They're pretty trash pizza

[–] Graphy 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes you just want a crappy pan pizza

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You've never thought to yourself "fuck, I want a taco bell taco/burrito" or "I could really go for just a cheeseburger from burger king/mcd/wendys" or something like that?

None of it is "good" food, but sometimes that doesn't matter. I could make my own double bacon cheeseburger with seasonings and perfectly toasted brioche buns. But every so often, I just want a shitty fast food burger that I didn't have to put effort into.

[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist 4 points 11 months ago

Seconding this. I like good food, sure. I like bad food too, and I don't care what other people think about that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

But why when I can get an actually good one from another restaurant? Can't say I've ever actually wanted to get taco bell except when others are already ordering from there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like their pasta and breadsticks

[–] fubbernuckin 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their pasta is really the highlight. Don't know how they managed to make it so much better than the pizza.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Damnit, you're making me consider trying it...but it's just pasta...

[–] reddig33 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“Most Pizza Hut restaurants in the state work with third-party delivery apps, such as DoorDash, Uber Eats, and GrubHub.”

Sounds like a business plan that was already in motion before the wage hike. I know that competing chains have been offering huge discounts to incentivize you to pick up your pizza instead of have it delivered by the chain. I wonder if pizza delivery pays more or less than these services.

[–] LaunchesKayaks 4 points 11 months ago

My local pizza places (including a pizza hut) stopped hiring drivers and use exclusively door dash drivers for delivery. If they don't have any dashers available, they call and tell you your food is gonna be late because they don't have anyone to pick it up. I don't order pizza anymore lol

[–] halcyoncmdr 3 points 11 months ago

I was going to comment that I was surprised they even had their own drivers anymore.

The last 2 Pizza Hut delivery orders I made in the app/website were delivered by Door dash here in AZ. I assumed they had just switched over entirely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, guess I'll have to get my stuffed crust elsewhere. I'm on the other side of the country, doesn't matter that none of mine are affected, they're a shitty company.

Anyone got any recommendations for a good stuffed crust pizza? My "neutral" bar is pizza hut pizza, so compared to that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you're bpycotting pizza hut you have to add Long John Silvers, KFC, Taco Bell, and A&W too, they're all subsidiaries of Yum! Foods Inc™.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Well that should be easy, those are all fucking garbage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Very true!

I don't eat at any of those places anyway though. Not a huge chicken guy, theres a great local tex-mex place if I'm in the mood, and I'm very particular about fish so I only eat what I've cooked myself, there.

But they're on the ever-expanding list of companies that just can't stop being shitty....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Two Pizza Hut operators in California are eliminating their in-house delivery services at hundreds of stores, resulting in more than 1,200 driver layoffs, according to federal-employment notices reviewed by Business Insider.

The layoffs, effective throughout February, affect Pizza Hut delivery drivers across California, including at Sacramento, Palm Springs, and Los Angeles locations.

The Pizza Hut franchisees are reducing staff as fast-food chains in the state brace for a new law that increases worker pay to $20 an hour in April.

A driver who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation told BI that he was offered $400 severance pay if he stuck around through his February 5 layoff date.

Lisa Hough, the director of human resources for PacPizza in San Ramon, California, was listed as the contact on all five WARN Act notices that the company's president, Brian E. Thompson, signed.

Mark Kalinowski, a restaurant-industry analyst, wrote in a note this week that he expected "more harm to come" in various ways as fast-food chains "take action in an attempt to blunt the impact of higher labor costs."


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

We have a local burger joint in Seattle that has a $25 wage, $18k in tuition, and child care.