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I don't know if others are experiencing a similar situation. My all feed is very sparse with engagement. If I sort top six hours or by top 12 most posts have between 5-10 comments. I feel like there was more in the past? Is engagement dropping off? I'm on lemmy.world as my instance.

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[–] Sprawlie 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

I'm fairly new. Finding it hard to get truly into the experience given some of the more extreme takes that Lemmy seems to allow (or at least some federated servers)

Seems like Lemmee is sadly becoming a fairly isolated echo chamber for certain opinions only.

edit: An example of "Extreme takes". Not linking the post. it's been upvoted 17 times, and online for 18 hours unmoderated: in the post, the user encourages execution. Murder and destruction of property:

so, as an actual radical:

yeah pretty spot on with healthcare. this is basic ‘having a society’ shit.

I don’t want a job that pays so much as an actual society I can contribute to and nurture and be a fucking part of that will take care of me some noticeable fraction of how I take care of it. I’d rather not have money involved, if its all the same to you.

I do actually want a free place to live. I’ll help build it or whatever, but I’m fucking done compromising with landlord parasites; watched too many of their victims die.

I do not want corporations to be unprofitable; I want them dismantled and their boards executed. worker co-ops are cool. individual enterprise is cool. no more exploitation, no more not having a voice.

I think the entire concept we have of ‘democracy’ is absolutely cucked. I could write some essays on what real democracy looks like, but the short version is: fuck your bourgoise elections.

kill the billionaires; tjwyre literal monsters who drink children’s blood steal and transfuse the blood of the young to grasp vainly at eternal youth while burning our futures. no problem with your party yacht if its green and you built it with your friends, but I think we need a reset on ‘wealth’.

Reading shit like that a LOT on this site is a massive turn off to the average user, and why I have a hard time truly diving in and giving a shit about it.

Edited once more: Bolded the problem points I have with above. My issue is not the message itself, but the words and what this user encourages. Don't gaslight that the language used in that post was beyond reasonable and encourages violence

[–] themusicman 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Most of that shouldn't be considered extreme. Yeah "eat the rich" style rhetoric is inflammatory, but the rest is just pretty bog standard leftist stuff. There's far more extreme stuff on Reddit, on all the political fringes.

[–] fishos 11 points 7 months ago

You're literally proving their point. You're saying "I don't see anything wrong with this, it's perfectly normal to me and I'm fine if this kind of thing dominates my feed". Their entire complaint is how normalized this kind of rhetoric has become and how pervasive it is and your response is basically "this is fine" dog.

[–] VindictiveJudge 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They believe in the q-anon child blood theft thing. It's not rhetoric or hyperbole, they literally want to murder people. The 'eat the rich' rhetoric isn't just inflamatory, it encourages people to actually commit violence, whether that's what you really want them to do or not.

[–] themusicman 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with the q-anon blood theft thing, so I'll take your word on that one

[–] VindictiveJudge 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Child_sex_trafficking_and_satanic_sacrifice

Added to this is the belief that politicians and Hollywood elites engage in "adrenochrome harvesting", in which adrenalin is extracted from children's blood to produce the psychoactive drug adrenochrome.

One version of the QAnon theory posits that the child abusers use adrenochrome as an elixir to remain young.

That's what they're referencing when they mention drinking children's blood.

[–] themusicman 1 points 7 months ago

You sure? They specifically mention blood transfusion, which is obviously an actual real transfer of blood from the young/healthy(/poor?) to the old/sick(/wealthy?). It's not clear to me whether "children" is hyperbole or conspiracy.

[–] Dashi 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You also see this sort of thing about cops. I just learned ACAB, all cops are bastards, today. Which I'm getting increasingly tired of. When you try having a discussion with people they are just as stuck in their ways as the right and don't realize it.

Do i think all cops are saints no. But demonizing entire jobs/professions/whatever right wrong or indifferent is the same reason i stopped watching some news. All doom and gloom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I’ve been saying this for quite a while. It’s impossibly to get people on lemmy to understand nuance. I was the same way when I was young which is why I really feel like the average age of a lemmy user has got to be around 16-17 years old.

[–] VindictiveJudge 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That last paragraph dips into q-anon stuff, too, despite otherwise being extreme left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I find it impossible for me to take people like that seriously at all. I keep picturing them as 16 year old kids that recently read an op-ed piece and now thinks they should whine about it to anyone that will listen.

[–] Mrkawfee 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's interesting. I came to Lemmy because I want open debate and not moderation which I view as a form of censorship. Interesting to know that not everyone shares that view!

[–] Ultragigagigantic 5 points 7 months ago

I don't get it, can't people just join a instance that best reflects their values?

[–] Sprawlie 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

nice attempted rage bate

There's a massive difference between sharing views, IE: "I don't like billionaires", and Making threatening remarks, or calling to violence (not ok).

trying to frame me pointing out that calls to violence are NOT a good look for Lemmy, is not me calling out censorship. That's you trying to rage bate the conversation into some argument about your rights (which ends where my nose begins)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In a favourable reading, "killing" a billionaire is as easy as taking their money away.

That said, I think the biggest catch-all instances of Lemmy should be defederated from Lemmy.ml and hexbear. The users of these sites just ruin the experience for anyone with half a brain and a less than spectacular appetite for bullshit.

[–] Klear 2 points 7 months ago

I do not want corporations to be unprofitable; I want them dismantled and their boards executed

Favourable reading my ass.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

All is not a "for you" feed, it contains posts from the whole fediverse. You are supposed to add the filter yourself. Find the communities you are interested in, subscribe and then browse that.