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'I saw one terrorist standing by a bed pleading 'no, no,' I killed him with four bullets'
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https://www.newtimes.co.rw/article/104771/National/dehumanisation-how-tutsis-were-reduced-to-cockroaches-snakes-to-be-killed
We've seen this before. Dehumanize a people to the point where everyone is considered scum and this is what happens.
This is literally one of the steps to building a fascist state. Israel is speed running to a fascist theocracy.
they already are. it's time for regime change
Every time they start talking about it something like this happens and everyone there "rallys around the flag"
Israel has never not been a fascist state. Religion is humanity's oldest lash. Each of the abrahamic religions after Judaism is a heretical revolutionary cult against the political structures that each prior religion corrupted itself into.
A NYT letter to the editor signed by many prominent Jews, including Einstein, more or less blatantly called Tnaut Haherut Nazis.
Haherut is now Likud, and that letter was written in 1948.
From a comment in reference to this piece:
“In February 2014, the state of Israel held a memorial ceremony to mark the 20th anniversary of Begin’s death. The prime minister, then, as now, was Netanyahu.
“The newspaper Israel Hayom reported Netanyahu as saying: ‘[Begin] is a great role model for me, with his respect for democracy, courts of law and the media…… Israel and the Likud are inspired by the spirit of Menachim Begin.’”
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/albert-einstein-and-hannah-arendt-warn-against-fascism-in-israel/
that's an interesting read; thanks for dropping it.
I'm no scholar, but aren't there only two and their various sects? Would have been shorter to just name them, unless it was to tie them to their Abrahamic roots and then I'm curious why you don't include Judaism.
You could argue it's all the same religion, different sects but the same exact God, just different names for it.
Or wasn't the exact same God who talked to Abraham in all of these religions?
One could also argue that the god described in the New Testament is not the same as the (petty, jealous, hateful, genocidal) one in the OT.
That's YOUR point of view. None of the major Christian sects think that afaik.
You can make a religion out of that!
I wasn't going for short, I was trying to communicate a specific idea. To answer your questions read the rest of what I said.
I did misread initially, thank you.
I think the actual lash might precede it, but how can we really know?
Just what Trump and the GOP is doing with immigrants in America.
I remember around 10 years ago, there were some videos of what the youth were taught in school, and interviews with young adults about their opinion of Palestinians.
To sum it up, they were taught they were filth, sub human, in ~grade school ages. Young adults "sympathized" that they had tough lives, but they should go elsewhere, anywhere else, and that if they didn't, they should die.
It was in the context of that anti missile defense, and living in Isreal with frequent missile/terror attacks, and how Palestinians were segregated, had long lines to enter the city, couldn't use the same roads, kids throwing rocks at cars, etc.
So yeah, this genocide is hardly surprising. They've been dehumanizing the Palestinians for generations, straight up indoctrinating their children. So the IDF murdering them like some rabid dogs was exactly the goal.
Holy moly, this sounds hauntingly familiar.
And that is all really ridiculous brainwashing, considering that all those people look very similar. You could take random Israelis and Palestinians and dress them up all in the same clothes, and then ask people which person was which ethnic group and they might not be able to tell them apart.
Same thing with the Hutus and the Tutsis during the Rwandan Genocide, or Turkish and Armenian people, except even closer than that probably. It's ridiculous.
JR, an artist that plastered large portraits of Palestinian and Isrealis in both cities. Groups tried to tear down portraits of the opposing group. They had to stop because they realized they really couldn't tell who was Isreali or Palestinian by their faces alone. This was in 2007.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JR_(artist)
There was a paper that attempted to provide some genetic evidence for this, but it, and the author, were attacked, the paper unprecedentedly deleted, and the author shortly thereafter apparently smeared with false embezzlement charges. Make of that what you will.
He is a bit of a nut job when it comes to the Basque language, though, hilariously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Arnaiz-Villena https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/25/medicalscience.genetics https://www.bmj.com/content/324/7339/695.1
This is my favorite Black Mirror episode because, unlike most of the episodes, it has literally been done before except we don't need the technology they used. People are cruel and stupid enough to just listen when you say other people are monsters without requiring much else.
it actually requires years of extremism within a government for people to support things like this.
Yeah this sort of radicalization takes decades of hatred for the “other”. I’m talking about Israel, to be clear.
I really don’t think it does, check out the Robbers Cave experiment. Group dynamics is fascinating.
Robbers Cave has been debunked. Short version:
Muzafer Sherif's first experiment ("Middle Grove") failed when the two groups worked together to figure out that they were being manipulated. The second experiment ("Robbers Cave") was only apparently successful because the "camp counselors" were explicitly aiding and abetting the feud between the two groups.
Of course, Sherif didn't mention these details when he publicized his results.
I don’t see where it’s debunked in that article, but I’d absolutely like to check out any other sources you have. I only found a Vox article that said he failed to disclose the first experiment and linked to that same page you did. To me, it seems more “scientifically unsound” due to ethical issues rather than “debunked”.
Even that author thinks he’s just like every researcher. I dunno. I’m not seeing the debunked angle. Ethical issues, sure.
Regardless, I still think it’s quite relevant even if they were manipulating the boys somehow; do you not feel we’re potentially being manipulated by other parties to feud with one another?
Fundamentally, it's the same issue that affected the Stanford Prison Experiment & the Milgram experiment. You can't claim that the subjects naturally developed certain behaviors, if they were being prompted or saw through the prompts.
Since Sherif proved himself to be untrustworthy after the first experiment failed to provide the results he was looking for, we can't really trust that any of the conditions of the conflict between the campers arose from the campers themselves.
Maybe? But even if that's true, so what? What's your point?
The UN has also compared the rate of killing to Rwanda. Specifically worse than in any conflict since Rwanda.
Bibi: We have to pump those numbers up if we ever want to beat Rwanda