I've been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can't believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C'mon guys

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[–] FenrirIII 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

3rd party is a lost vote. Parties need to start small and build. Everyone knows this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And how can those small third parties grow if people don't vote for them?

[–] FenrirIII 24 points 8 months ago

Start small, at the local level. City, county, school board, or even a state representative. You build up a following starting at a smaller level because there are fewer people to have to convince to vote for you.

[–] JJROKCZ 4 points 8 months ago

Got them into local positions and let them build power in the lower levels before moving up. Voting at the federal level for anyone other than the big two is a wasted vote at this time

[+] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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[–] FenrirIII 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

None of the 3rd party candidates has national support or awareness. If you start small, you build support at a local level. People see what you can do and it instills faith while bringing in donations. As more people join the party, your influence grows. A real 3rd party candidate, who isn't super rich or funded by rich donors looking to spoil the election, has never shown up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know what also helps third parties? Votes.

Without votes what purpose do they have in continuing?

[–] FenrirIII 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There are no 3rd party conservative candidates. The cult of power (GOP) makes no room for competition. 3rd party candidates only exist to split the progressive/non-fascist and are usually funded by conservative donors for that very reason. If a 3rd party candidate was funded by grassroots support and had actually gained popularity by repressing a large constituency, the votes would mean something.

[–] Kalysta 7 points 8 months ago

The Libertarian party is a third party conservative party and they did take votes away from Trump last election

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I dunno, I don't feel like a lot of otherwise dems (or at least not more than gop) would vote for RFK. And historically I don't think the progressive side was voting for Ross Perot (as an independent) or the libertarians who still run within the gop like Ron or Rand Paul.