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I should actually be using the term "far left", as after research, as far as I can tell "alt left" is a term used by alt rights (i.e. neo Nazis, white supremacists and the likes) as a knee jerk reaction to whoever calls them alt right. My bad on that.
Examples of far left governments are China and the USSR, with policies that concentrate power at the government and makes it difficult for people to hold power and have a voice.
As for fascism, it was historically considered inherent to far right governments, but some argue that far left governments that fit most of the characteristics of fascism should also be described as such, hence far left fascism, but it could also be described as far left authoritarianism.
I wouldn't call those far left at all personally. authoritarianism and fascism are blanketly not leftist systems of government
The concept of a tankie is a person with the cognitive dissonance necessary to both have majority leftist ideology yet still believe in and support authoritarian governments
In my country, we simply call them "authoritarian communists" or, still today, "stals", for "stalinists".
Right, my above comment was a bit disjointed. The vocabulary gets a bit vague when it comes to putting a political spectrum on a 1D axis.
My concern with my comment is that I wouldn't know where to put, e.g., the Chinese government on the political axis. It's both communist-like yet authoritarian.
haha You're all right. I think something like the Chinese government is definitely one of the more difficult ones. It has its roots in communism, but at this point it's very much a capitalist autocracy with high social investment and surveillance. authoritarian for aure
China is right wing. In the extreme. They have centralized authority with strong top-down hierarchies. There is nothing leftist about them in the least.
in fact, left stand for equality and right stand for liberty. That's all.
This makes no sense. Those are the same thing. You do not have one without the other. The right is about neither. The right is purely “do what we say”. Nothing more and nothing less.
nobody would call them far left. it's not particularly far left. its authoritarian, even the political compass has more nuance here, cmon man.
I've seem many people from Europe refer to communist parties and Russia as far left because they do embody certain socialist ideas that are leftist but take it well beyond the point of being a good thing, so in this regard yes they are far left. Thing is you absolutely can go way too far with any philosophy. I do agree that what they did with the political compass is good though because it reflects the actual nature of being an extremist socially while also representing the economic value, though in these situations they are still very far to the left of countries with economies that aren't exclusively controlled by state (North Korea is a great example).