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[–] needthosepylons 1 points 2 hours ago

Love this one. Used to teach students in political science about the horrible thing that "political ventiloquism" is.

[–] needthosepylons 2 points 3 hours ago

I suppose it's less about the quote origin and more about what we make it to mean :)

[–] needthosepylons 3 points 3 hours ago

Recently, I learned about a historical quote, from French PM Daladier on his way back from Munich where he knew he gave everything to Hitler.

He got out his plane, expecting to be lynched or thrown oranges at, and people, when he realized people were praising him as a herald of "peace", let out this magnificent "Ah.. what a bunch of idiots".

[–] needthosepylons 3 points 3 hours ago

It's beautiful and I can understand why it sticks.. Thanks for letting us know!!

[–] needthosepylons 5 points 12 hours ago

Oh and there's also this one ftom H2G2 :

Slartibartfast: Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I think that the chances of finding out what's actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say, "Hang the sense of it," and keep yourself busy. I'd much rather be happy than right any day. Arthur Dent: And are you? Slartibartfast: Ah, no. [laughs, snorts] Slartibartfast: Well, that's where it all falls down, of course

[–] needthosepylons 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm, you're right. I first read this sentence for the first time as an epigraph for a violently anti-patriotic, individualistic, fantastic and oniric book which gave me this impression. After a bit of digging, I still think there's something of my interpretation in the original material (a lettre from Vaché to Aragon from the battlefield), but it's also a dadaist piece, so not so easy to decipher, in which he wishes for the death of his own generals, somehow talks about killing Germans while wearing a monocle and, all of them soldiers, French and German, being slowly decerebrated. He was fighting and killing although he was still against the war, seemed to be borderline self-destructing, dandy, rebelling, talking multiple times about how war changed him for the worse in both his mind and his body, crippled for life too. He died at 23 from an opium overdose.

So there is certainly more to it. Indeed, he doesn't say what I implied and seemed to be such a complicated person he might have wrote the quote while thinking it is a good thing, but I suppose my interpretation isn't totally absurd.

More info :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vach%C3%A9

[–] needthosepylons 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, yeah. There's another one like this for me, a very short poem I read when I was a teenager :

"Ah, what are they dreaming...? Those who say, say, say... Yesterday I was there, today I was here"

[–] needthosepylons 1 points 1 day ago

That's so lovely!

[–] needthosepylons 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And yet, a WWI soldier uttered that phrase. I suppose he did not share this view of WW1. Or he couldn't have wrote that.

 

Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

Mine would be :

"Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

How about you?

[–] needthosepylons 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Well everybody already knows that. Like.. The power dynamics of "vote lesser evil, vote for minority candidate, vote for a compromising pseudo-progressive party because it's still something, abstain and stay pure, better face true fascists than traitors, etc." has been around since representative regimes emerged. Yet everyone has to find his/her political and moral stance in this shitshow. And answers will differ, sometimes for legitimate reasons, sometimes because of total bs. That's all there is to it and it's not exactly news.

[–] needthosepylons 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'd like to know too, I strongly suggest this is a delusion. Although the saying is a cliché, it's a remarkably correct statement.

[–] needthosepylons 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I suppose it required a great deal of courage. I hope the court will rule in your favor!

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As I turn 40 in a few days... (self.upliftingnews)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by needthosepylons to c/upliftingnews
 

... I realize sure, some things are good, some aren't, struggles are here, and I'm even not one of those having it the worst.

But I just wanted to write something down for all those of you that are younger : I can't, sadly, know when or how it ends, or even if it will at all in certain cases, but you know all this self-criticism, self-flagellation, constant lack of self-confidence?

Well, there may be a time when it all ends. Completely, totally, entirely, and just like that, you realize you're free from it, probably forever.

It doesn't make everything ok, doesn't heal everything and won't change anything to your denied need for justice and anger against subservience or all the evils people, or you, live through.

But this whole thing about self harming, physically or psychologically? THIS may end. It ended for me like 6 or 7 years ago, probably to never come back. Nothing particular happened, you know. Stuff just healed. It took time but it did happen in the end.

And I dearly wish it will for you all too.

Cheers and take care.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by needthosepylons to c/lemmyshitpost
 

And by lifetime wage, I mean this

Edit : Keeping the post up for the message and the link, have been warned about the identity of the man in the picture. Ewwwwwwww.

 

Il y en a 250 qui partent à l'impression demain pour les pubs et autres formes de réclame dans ma ville. Si vous aimez le design, faites vous plaisir aussi !

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Feeling voidy yet? (lemmy.world)
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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by needthosepylons to c/[email protected]
 

Alright, so, something I've been talking about with my therapist a lot, but I thoughts folks out here could have interesting povs.

To sum it up, I'm constantly trying to act like a saint (figuratively, I'm an atheist). There's one exception to this, people holding power and making others miserable in any way.

But basically, you know, this whole mentality of banishing anger, jealousy, egoism, selfishness, greed, desire for power and authority and all that? That's me.

I don't mean I manage to do so constantly, but that's what I strive for.

One could think, and I did think, it was a desire for social praise. But really, when I get praised, which happen a lot, I don't care and that's more awkward that anything (like : woa dude, it's not the Oscars or something, chill out). And little by little, I started to think it didn't have much to do with being praised, that's just striving to live as I think it's better to live. To live a life I'll me content with when the grim reaper will come and all praises won't mean anything anymore.

My therapist thinks it's not really an issue as long as it doesn't cause myself pain (which it does because I'm deaf to my own needs 50% of the times).

But I don't see a satisfying way to live apart from that.

One potential misinterpretation I'd like to prevent. It's a very strong drive, but it doesn't make me blind. It really doesn't happen a lot but whenever I'm angry, I'm not feeling guilty. I know why I feel this, it's just that I didn't have any other way to manage a situation/feeling. I'll just strive to do better next time by trying to modify the situation so that anger will not be the most probable answer.

Do you find it weird? Anyone adopting this kind of behavior? Maybe everyone does. It may sound a bit megalomaniac, like hey I'm exceptional, but it really isn't what I mean. To my own eyes, I'm not a bad or a good person. I'm just trying to be what I want. If somebody tries to be someone different, it's all fine by me.

TL;DR : Is having high moral standards for one's self weird or toxic? Does my message actually sound megalomaniac?

 

Source : am French and have been laughing about this since I was 8yo. Recently read about the prefect response and it's now even better.

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On prison abolition (self.asklemmy)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by needthosepylons to c/[email protected]
 

You're a prison abolitionist. You're in a high stakes discussion where you have to answer seriously and be convincing.

Someone asks you : "yeah, but what are we to do with people breaking the law, then? What will you replace prisons with ?"

What will you answer?

Edit : Thanks a lot for your answer, they were very interesting and reflecting different ways to frame a world without prisons.

Except from one or two edgelord hot takes, of course.

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A story beside (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by needthosepylons to c/games
 

Today, I'd like to recommend everyone who likes a deep and tragic story to take a look at A Story Beside.

As a disclaimer, I am not affiliated at all with the studio or promo. None of that. I don't even have a yt channel to promote.

I just happened to play this game 2 years ago and it still haunts me with both joy and sadness.

To make it clear how much I loved it : I played it on the high seas, finished it, knew I was never going to play it again (for me, that's the kind of story based/narrative game you only play once), and still bought it on Steam the day after and bought it for a few friends.

While the gameplay is simple and the gfx are nothing to write home about (rpg maker, my first game of the kind), the story is superb and highly emotional. It has a simple point and click interface (definitely NOT my type of games), choices with heavy consequences and mostly non genderlocked romance, IIRC.

But what cracked my heart the most us the VA. It's beautiful behind words, haunting and powerful. It made me understand how VA is important in a game. Some sentences from this game are still with me to this day and randomly pop in my thoughts.

So do yourself a favor and play this one of these days.. Just make sure you have someone you trust close enough, because it can be really heartbreaking sometimes. Or beautiful. Or happy. Depends on your perspective.

Edit : typo in the title of the post >.<

P. S. : If I had one criticism about this game, it would be that some choices are quite obscure. A little thing you said, did or forgot to do at one point can have cataclysmic consequences later on, and it can be frustrating because back then, you didn't even know you were making a choice. I started blind, got a heartbreaking story event, restarted from the beginning with a guide to avoid the.. err.. bad endings.

 
 
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