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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (5 children)

FFS I literally use this all the fuckin time

God fuckin damnit Google

What's next, are you going to kill Gmail‽

[–] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] eager_eagle 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How long until they change 8.8.8.8 and break half the internet

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for them to figure out how to inject ads into DNS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] partial_accumen 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It would be trivially easy.

Request for www.taylorswift.com

Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But, HTTPS certificates.
Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

[–] partial_accumen 1 points 7 months ago

The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers,

Yes that would be the purpose.

but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now.

[–] Plopp 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can we just sunset google altogether

[–] eager_eagle 9 points 7 months ago

don't forget alphabet, otherwise they just sunset google to launch gogol or some shit

[–] sugartits 42 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

NGL you had me for a moment

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

This would give me a straight up heart attack and I'm already trying to get off Gmail.

[–] nnjethro 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't google wallet basically the same thing?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes, and it works better. They said over a year ago that wallet would replace GPay, and remind you that it will stop working basically anytime you open it. I'm all for shitting on Google but being upset over this is dumb.

[–] maryjayjay 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why don't they upgrade the original product rather than create a new one? Answer: fucking laziness

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Ironically enough, they actually are going back to the old product, it WAS Google wallet prior to gpay

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But isn't wallet only for tap to pay? I use Google pay to send and receive money between my friends and family literally all the time. Reading the email Google sent me, they only talk about tap to pay still working on wallet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Idk I've never used it for anything other than tap to pay, and that was also true for gpay. I personally would recommend you use something that doesn't farm your data for transferring money anyway. Zelle is what most people prefer these days, usually goes straight through your bank, no separate app, not invasive, more secure.

Venmo and cash app are trash (especially Venmo) but they are alternatives that work for sending money and have been around way longer than GPay. I still use Venmo for a few things for my parents and father in law.

GPay had tons of bloat to it which I didn't like. I don't want Google tracking my spending and tailoring "offers" for me, and I definitely don't want them sending me notifications about it. I'm not delusional, I know they're still tracking it and still sending it to advertisers but at least wallet isn't shoving my face in it.

[–] MimicJar 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have 8 bucks in Google Kajigger, is it moving to the new thing? Do I have to sort out how to move it around? I'm think I had it all hooked up to a bank at one point. Maybe it was a friend that sent me money?

I think I used it to pay for Dunkin Donuts, but both apps list Dunkin Donuts, can I just use the money there?

That's why this is all so annoying, I have to figure out this whole process, old and new, just for 8 bucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That's all well and good and fair, but this isn't new news is more my point. Google told everyone, every device, that they were switching to wallet and phasing out GPay over a year ago, in fact I'm almost positive it was when Android 13 released (we are on 14 now). Like the annoyance should've passed by now, you know?