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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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[–] Geobloke 54 points 10 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No one memed on Elon when he shut down his tracker? Or Kylie Jenner for the 3 minute flight?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Taylor has long had criticism for her jet use, the meme explosion is just about the media wanting to use her as hype prop while at the same time her team sued to shutdown the flight tracker kid. Posts that seem obsessed with possible damage to Taylor’s reputation sound like it is coming from a PR firm. Does Op genuinely believe that someone sees a Jet Meme and think differently of Taylor? Is Op against Taylor being the poster child for Aviation reform? I do not understand why an uninterested third party feels the need to prevent Taylor from suffering consequences of her actions merely because other heads should roll first.

ETA: I had to check if OP was a PR FIRM, check OP’s own response to Taylor Jet Memes: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/4651417

[–] kautau 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you but “lol maybe Taylor herself is a jet, that’s funny” is far from PR material

[–] Spiralvortexisalie 5 points 10 months ago

I viewed it as an answer to my question “Does Op genuinely believe that someone sees a Jet Meme and think differently of Taylor?”, I only saw the post because I checked if it was PR firm.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

thanks for your commentary.

  1. taylor swift absolutely should face the consequences for her actions. there is no good billionaire.
  2. these memes kicked off in 2022, and Swift reduced jet use (significantly, but not perfectly) in response, something i have never seen from any other individual. she is still worthy of criticism but i question if what she is getting is proportionate.
  3. it is now 2024. i am concerned to see that Fox News is using this debacle to discredit her (good and positive) call to increase voter participation.
[–] Droggelbecher 13 points 10 months ago

She isn't getting the most hate because she is the worst offender, she is getting the most hate because she is the most famous and most beloved offender right now. People already hate the likes of Musk. Not saying this is the only reason and there's no sexism etc involved, but it certainly is part of it. And I'd argue if calling attention to rich people's environment sins, it's going to get more attention the more famous and well liked the offender is. It's 'yes ALL billionaires are bad, even the one who's likeable and pretty and makes good music and never says unhinged right wing stuff'.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Totally no one memed Jeff Bezos nor Zark Muckerberg nor Tonald Drump. No one.

[–] gmtom 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No one memed on Elon when he shut down his tracker?

Yes they did? When he announced he was buying twitter/everyone/ was miming on him because they knew he was buying it to shut down that account.

[–] BluesF 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The only reason this has blown up is because she threatened that tracker with legal action. It's the Streisand effect 100%. The same shit happend when Elon Musk shut down the account that was tracking him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

posting this once more for reach— this is a common misconception i am seeing, where people are getting the timeline reversed.

The uptick in memes kicked off most significantly in December, and while, yes, the cease and desist was embarrassing fuel for the fire, there is no evidence that it was causal in any way.

[–] Geobloke -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gee, it's almost like she's worried about stalkers or something. And I was on the net when elon tried it ands it wasn't like this

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're treating her better than Elon purely because she's a woman. That's sexism

[–] Geobloke -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never said she was better. I am saying boys are treated differently to girls

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're saying it's valid and good for her to worry about stalkers. You are not saying the same about Elon. This is purely because she is a woman and he is a man. This is sexism.

Women are not delicate flowers who need to be protected. Men are not tough monsters who do not need protecting.

Billionaires are destructive enemies of humanity - gender doesn't affect that analysis

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

You are correct in entirety.

[–] Geobloke 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lgbtiq have the same struggles as heterosexuals

Coloured people have the same problems as whites

Third world problems are the same as first world problems

Go home mate you're cooked

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Musk gets far worse said about him.

[–] Zehzin 5 points 10 months ago
[–] Odelay42 13 points 10 months ago

Objectively and demonstrably false

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Have u ever seen anyone mention any billionaire on this platform?