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no they don't. anarcho-capitalists are fascists. they don't want the state gone they just want it minimal and out of the way so they can exploit whoever and whatever they want to build their own empire like a robber baron of ages ago. there is no place for capitalism in anarchy.
There’s still the debate whether a fetus is a human being. If it is, and many people believe it, then an abortion is murder, in their eyes.
Before anyone of you call me the n word or something, know that I’m just stating their beliefs.
They think abortion should be restricted by private for-profit entities. If anything, that's even worse.
They want a state to forbid it if it suits them. You don't actually believe that they're anarchists, do you?
They want to abolish the current state and install they're own feudalist state where money is the only definng factor on of something can be done
No. They're correct. AnCap is not an anarchic ideology and is just a form of re-branded neo-feudalism. There's a lot of hand-waving and arguments that intentionally avoid following threads to their logical conclusion.
Capitalism is a mandatorily hierarchical system. It literally revolves around capitalists owning the means of production and leveraging it to extract as much value from workers' labor as is possible to keep as profit. This makes it incompatible with any form of anarchism.
"AnCap" has nothing to do with anarchism and revolves around elimination of regulatory power, services, and social safety nets of the state, while preserving the state's ability to use violence to coerce workers into falling in line. State services and social safety nets are then "replaced" by dependence on the goodwill of capitalists voluntarily providing for the less fortunate. The dynamic setup by this can logically only lead to increasingly disparate distribution of wealth and power, with capitalists becoming kings and workers becoming serfs, completely dependent upon their rulers because they have no ability to economically support themselves.
If they were consistent with their beliefs then yeah, but that's a big if
"An"caps are not anarchists
Ok then you must believe that Nazis were socialists and that North Korea is a democracy. Everyone knows that if it's in the name, it must be true! And fascists like ancaps are famous for being honest and forthright, historically speaking
You don't understand what you're talking about. I see in another comment you think that anarchism is "doing whatever you want" or some ignorant childish shit like that.
You know what I think? I think you actually do know what anarchism is and that you're just an ancap-defending troll and fascist who came here to start shit. You're not wanted here, and I'm reporting you for trolling and uncivil behavior on the grounds that you've had multiple people patiently explain to you why you're wrong, and you continue to fling shit like the reactionary primate you are.
Go fuck yourself.
I nut in ya dad
Stop trolling. Shit gets named so it sounds god on the surface all the time. Like 'noLifeKing' one would assume that meant someone was against monarchy. But here you are, eager to bend the knee and suck their balls, for any ancap around... Or perhaps i misread, and the pronunciation is no-life. Which explains why you're 50 comments deep in defending an terribly ideology you claim not to support, and clearly know nothing about.
Terms have meanings indeed, but sometimes those meanings are stupid, made up, and deliberately chosen to mist the waters for whatever the actual agenda is. But seeing how some adults believe in Santa Claus or s first earth, maybe ancaps are just delusional.
Regardless, much smarter people than I have made arguments as to why "anarcho capitalism" is a misnomer. There's a while list on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#Analysis_and_criticism
Ancaps: Government is bad because tyranny, we should get rid of it.
Also Ancaps: Here's how we can still enforce copyright, abortion bans, and racial segregation without a government! 🥰
I'm pretty sure they don't exist because anarchy is incompatible with capitalism.
So is capitalism.
Nope. That's bartering. When small children want to exchange goods, they don't draw up paper to represent abstract value, they barter because it's natural, then they need to be taught how capitalism works. People bartered and exchanged goods and services for thousands of years before capitalism came along.
It's not a take, it's history. Like recorded history. My argument was for what is natural, not what is logical or better. Humans started bartering thousands of years before the invention of currency because it's the quickest and most natural way of exchanging goods. No need for insults either, we're just talking here, no need to get so hot and bothered over it.
Wrong again. Human society was around approximately 300,000 years before we invented currency, money as we know it was only really invented 5,000 years ago, so unless your argument is it took humans 300,000 years to do what came naturally to them then money isn't really natural.
You're moving the goalpost again, my argument was for what is natural, not what is practical.
Your definition of humanity is more the definition of civilization, which came after the domestication of wheat, which is a thing I've actually studied a lot. The problem is that that definition has nothing to do with a physical change in humans, it's just a societal shift. Humans have existed for like 315,000 years and those people, other than different advancements in technology were the same, doing what came naturally to them. We're social animals and living in societies is as old as humanity itself.
Capitalism was a system so alien to humans before the hording of wealth that it took a solid millennium for them to get used to it. People just exchanged goods and services for thousands of years, or sharing tasks and pitching in to help each other. The majority of human existence resembled anarchy or communism more than capitalism.
Humans just don't naturally use money or enact capitalism unless the need exists, which usually doesn't arise without the complication of advancements of society.
Depends on the ancap. Some are actually progressive capitalists, like the Democrats but on steroids. Others are just nazis that like to jerk off to loli hentai and playing video games, but don't want the negative association with the authoritarian right, be it your grandpa conservatives or some caricature of nazis (read: a lot of people think nazi equals with people wanting to do evil things for the sake of evil).
Anarcho-capitalist president of Argentina on his way to outlaw abortion