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This isn't a "go back in time and assassinate" someone question. It's just their musical career never takes off and thus any music they ever would have made is no longer in this timeline.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Michael Jackson. Having his career fail during the childhood "Jackson 5" phase. Better for him and a lotta other people.

[–] Doorbook 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Last i remember he would play with kids but didn't sexually abuse them. Was there any more infor came out?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm on the fence about him, as I haven't really dug into it, but i get the impression that it's mostly allegations without proof. His sister made some outlandish claims, but her credibility has been called intoquestion.

There were some settlements/payoffs, but I'm not going to speculate whether that was for covering something up, or if it was an attempt at appeasing people who just wanted a quick buck.

It can be said with certainty that he liked being around kids, possibly in a purely innocent manner. Anything beyond that is hard to say for certain. And the stories about kids sharing bedroom with him often fail to take into account that his bedroom was larger than most houses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I’ve heard people say it was Peter Pan Syndrome.

[–] 13esq 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He asked them to show their butt holes and masturbated in front of them, so not as severe as rape but definitely sexual abuse (allegedly).

What swung it for me is when Louis Theroux said that anyone claiming he's not a pedophile is in denial. If you're willing to look the other way because "he made great music though", then shame on you.

[–] frostysauce 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He asked them to show their butt holes and masturbated in front of them

Yeah, gonna need a source on that...

[–] 13esq 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A documentary called "Leaving Neverland".

It's available to watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I watched this honestly with a mind that wasn't just open, but sceptical with a view that some "hangers on" were just after a quick payday and I ended up feeling pretty sick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Oh boy, yeah, a lot more came out about it. There's actually been a lot over the years, but a few years ago a pretty serious documentary came out about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Neverland