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A New York judge sentenced a woman who pleaded guilty to fatally shoving an 87-year-old Broadway singing coach onto a Manhattan sidewalk to six months more in prison than the eight years that had been previously reached in a plea deal.

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[–] NOT_RICK 66 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This story is weird. Who shoves an old woman for no apparent reason?

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But also people with no impulse control…… nvm

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it was really something far more reasonable, like she was feeling scared or disrespected or thought the coach matched a profile or found that the coach had a suspicious amount of money on their being or....

[–] SkyezOpen 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That cane looked like a fully semi automatic assault rifle I swear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sound like you've never seen a fully automatic walking assistance device.

[–] SkyezOpen 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No civilian needs that much ambulatory power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if it's a well regulated dysplasia?

[–] TheWoozy 5 points 1 year ago

You mean people who are perpetually in fear for their lives and prone to panic?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The abhorrent details from another article:

Lauren Pazienza spent the night of March 10 gallery-hopping with her fiancé in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood in celebration of 100 days until their wedding, her fiancé told authorities, according to a court document.

Pazienza had "several glasses of wine" during the evening before the pair stopped at a food cart for something to eat, according to the document filed by the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

The pair went to Chelsea Park to eat their meal, but before they were done, an employee told them they would have to leave because the park was closing, the document said. Chelsea Park closes at 11 p.m.

"The defendant became angry, started shouting and cursing at the park employee, threw her food onto her fiancé, and stormed out of the park," according to prosecutors.

Meanwhile, Pazienza "stormed" down the street and spotted Barbara Maier Gustern, prosecutors said.

Gustern, "in what turned out to be her dying words" before she lost consciousness, told a friend that a woman with dark hair “ran across the straight,” directly toward her, called her a b---- and pushed her as hard she "had ever been hit in her life" toward a metal fence, prosecutors said.

Gustern, according to a witness, "fell in an arc, falling directly on her head," according to the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office.

Pazienza "turned around and walked away, leaving Ms. Gustern prone on the sidewalk, bleeding from the head," prosecutors said.

Pazienza called her fiancé after the assault, he told authorities. When they reconnected, she picked a physical fight with him, accusing him of ruining her night, prosecutors said. He insisted the two head home, but security video from the area showed that Pazienza stayed in the area long enough to watch the ambulance arrive for Gustern.

She later told her fiancé what she had done, he told authorities. When he asked her why she would do such a thing, she said the woman "might have said something” to her.

[–] SkyezOpen 17 points 1 year ago

Sure prison is nice, but this lady is seriously unhinged and time behind bars won't fix that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Damn, he dodged a bullet there! (tell me he didn't marry her after that).

[–] hackitfast 9 points 1 year ago

Her fiance dodged a bullet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lauren Pazienza spent the night of March 10 gallery-hopping with her fiancé in Manhattan’s Chelsea neighborhood in celebration of 100 days until their wedding

honestly, this is just piece of shit person, living off someone else's money, running around contributing nothing to society. fuck her

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Christ these stories Blackpill me really badly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rich, white entitlement everyone.

I've seen it before. Lots of these girls pretend to care about those they see as lesser until you get a few drinks in them.

Then their real character shows, and this is it.

Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don‘t know, this description sounds more like her brain imploded

[–] Baines 1 points 1 year ago

meet any rich white entitled people lately?

[–] kn33 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

According to prosecutors, Pazienza attacked Gustern after storming out of a nearby park, where she and her fiance had been eating meals from a food cart.

This is speculation, but sounds like maybe she got in an argument or was angry about something and was storming off somewhere. NYC is crowded and if you're angry, trying to get somewhere, and not composed (getting into the mindset here, not what I really think) then "this old bitch in my way fuckin' move arrrggg!" shove

Obviously, there's nothing right about it and most of the time people behave themselves, even when they're angry. Sometimes, though, they don't. This isn't a justification in any sense - more of a speculation in furtherance of an attempt at comprehension.

[–] who8mydamnoreos 31 points 1 year ago

The costs of the actions you commit while angry often far outweigh the initial cause of the anger.

[–] ChicoSuave 13 points 1 year ago

Her fiance perspective is that there was an argument and the suspect storms off and murders someone. Like, maybe now is a good time to see you're engaged to a monster.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guessing you haven't spent much time in NYC?

In such a dense environment, even the very small proportion of the general population that's deeply mentally ill and violent can be very visible and do a lot of damage, and we don't really have any good tools to deal with them except for waiting for them to attack someone.

[–] NOT_RICK 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in NJ, been to NYC quite a bit. I saw “event planner from Long Island” and was confused as that doesn’t sound like the kind of NYC crazy person I’ve come to expect (at least the physically violent kind) but once someone mentioned she was intoxicated it clicked for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

She has history of bullying her classmate. Some comments in nyc subreddit suggesting her father is a mafia - being cesspool contractor has something to do about it? I don't see the connection anyway but if that's the case, that could explain a bit.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bullying her classmates? Isnt she like 40?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

she's 26(+). People came forward after the incident went public. And her neighbors said she's a troublemaker.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 1 year ago

She does not look her age.

[–] negativeyoda 2 points 1 year ago

You've never encountered a rich, white woman in NYC, have you?