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A federal judge has blocked the state of Hawaii from enforcing a recently enacted ban on firearms on its prized beaches and in other areas including banks, bars and parks, citing last year's landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling expanding gun rights.

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[–] Zaktor 164 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apart from the "why do you need it" question, the beach is specifically a place people often leave items that can't be taken in the water unattended. Sure, legislators can write laws about how a gun must not be left unattended and gun nuts can swear up and down about how they would never do that, but they will. No matter how much you think "there's a lot of people around" or "I'll just be in and out" or "I'll watch my stuff from the water", thefts happen, and now a mundane occurrence has turned a supposedly (not really) "safe" and "legal" gun into one of those dangerous "illegal" guns they can't be held responsible for.

We were perfectly happy with our gun laws, and they worked, and now fringe nutcases and a politically captured courts are telling us we can't implement common sense restrictions because the nuts have a panic attack if they're not constantly armed.

[–] kescusay 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the nuts have a panic attack if they're not constantly armed.

That's the real issue, here. These guys are absolutely fucking terrified 100% of the time. They pack heat in order to feel like something besides a helpless babyman.

I have never even once felt like I couldn't possibly pick up a head of lettuce and some yogurt from the supermarket without some moral support from a gun. It's just fucking bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we can't implement common sense restrictions because the nuts have a panic attack if they're not constantly armed.

Do you honestly think that panic attacks by gun carriers is the blocker to reasonable gun laws? The number of people that carry firearms regularly is not statistically significant, let alone those with panic attacks.

I carry a concealed firearm because I think it's important for at risk groups to be able to defend themselves. I don't panic when I don't carry, but I recognize that I'm less prepared to defend myself from assault.

It's important to understand those you disagree with.

[–] Zaktor 1 points 1 year ago

I can't think of any at-risk group that has meaningful influence on gun legislation, but many of the groups propping up the Republican party have been convinced they are in mortal danger.

Though, frankly, I do find someone who thinks restrictions to carrying a gun at a beach in peaceful and multicultural Hawaii aren't reasonable to be a bit of a nut regardless of whatever risks you have in your personal life.