this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
382 points (98.7% liked)
196
16490 readers
2884 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
No snow, not hot, nothing rural, not conservative? You've just cut out more than 99% of the country. There's barely any snow on that road. That means basically nothing north of, like, Oklahoma.
"Nothing is affordable in the .5% of the country I deem worthy of living in!"
as someone in that country, 0% of it is worthy of living in
I like it pretty well here, we have all things that are good.
Assuming you have employable skills, get a work visa and go live in a country that is "worthy" of you then. Life is short.
I agree life is short, but also you cannot expect me and thousands of other people to just drop everything to follow the vague goal of "get a work visa". Not only does that require a ton of planning (picking a country, finding a job, interviewing, being on waitlists, finding a place to stay, etc), but you have to be financially stable too. What am I supposed to do about my lease that isn't up for several months? What about my pets? My car? My bank accounts? How would I get my medications on whatever new health insurance I'd be on (since every country has different laws for what is over-the-counter VS prescription)? I'd have to leave behind all my friends and family. I'd possibly have to learn a new language, and convert all my money into a new currency. I'd definitely have to learn new labor laws. When my work visa expires would I want to stay in the new country or move back? If I'm staying then I'd have to get citizenship, which is a whole can of worms in itself. The whole "get a work visa" advice sounds awfully similar to the "just get a better job" advice you hear countless times, as if that too isn't insanely difficult unless you Know A Guy and have connections. I would love to work abroad and such, but myself and many others just do not have the energy or financial means to do so, so we're stuck here.
Sorry to hear that. It sounds like that's what the person I was responding plans to do, but I feel for you about feeling stuck. I hope your situation improves.
already planning on it
Awesome! I hope you enjoy the experience.
Well, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
The snow pic admittedly isn't that bad, but most places aren't as chronically hot as the other pics imply. Many people would have to be straight up suicidal to try and live around such open bigots. I don't have a choice; I have to live away from that shit for my own safety. The worst part is that I hate cities. The extremism from the right has literally ruined rural living for people like me.
Also, if being a treasonous bigot is considered simply "conservative," then we're in deep shit.
They're hyperbolic images. "Winter" is too cold, a heat wave in Arizona is too hot, the house that treason built is too conservative, the house that is falling down with no visible community around it is too rural.
My point is simply that if one's criteria is "can't be: hot, cold, conservative, or rural," you're discounting the overwhelming majority of the country. If you'd like to debate the finer, literal details of each individual photograph, that's fine. I was responding to what they seem to connote rather than strictly what they denote.
Honestly, we need to teach ourselves and our children that owning a house isn’t all that great and dandy since we’ll just be torturing ourselves about not having one. Just go with having to pay a landlord and/or a studio apartment, just whatever to get everyone to live with the times.
Roughly 36% of people 25-29 own a home. Roughly 50% of 30-35yos own a home. Over 60% of 36-45yos own a home.
What are you talking about?
Demand keeps rising, supply stays the same. With rising sea levels in the future, the supply will even drop, raising the demand. Owning a house as a Zoomer died with the towers.
"Supply stays the same" seriously wtf are you talking about. Oh, I see this is just something you mope about in post after post. You're right, I think it's out of the question for you, but not for about 40% of Zoomers. Sorry, bro, get over it.
Houses don’t get built anymore
1.5 million houses were built in the U.S. just last year.
And? It's a big country
Good job.
You're full of great arguments. But I don't think any of them top "you got preferences? That's stupid"
No, I said something more like "if you make your preferences so limited that you discount 99.5% of your possibilities, you're going to find yourself with very few options." Which is, more or less, a truism.
Sorry I hurt you.
I have all of the preferences you criticize and that leaves me with... Several options.. that I actually would want to live in. And shockingly , my preferences don't absolutely dictate where I live because I understand nothing is perfect. It's a big country and world. Let people have preferences without being weird about it
You realize this is a comment thread that is responding to the OP's "starter pack" image, right? The entire premise of the image is: I have extremely bounded preferences, but it's unfair I can't buy a house for 200K based on those preferences.
Did you buy the home you currently own in a location that satisfied these preferences for 200K or less? Or are you just responding to my response and not the image to which I was responding?
I have no problem with people having exceptionally limiting preferences, but it seems silly to then complain about the lack (or cost) of those very limited options.
I don't own a home and I'll keep it that way unless there's a good investment opportunity.
I think you're missing the point of the post. They're making fun of people who think a $200K home is great because they've gotta ignore that they live in a shit hole to get that price
The more common viewpoint which actually deserves criticism is "I was born here and that makes it the best place so I would never travel or live anywhere else. I prefer exactly one 200 mile radius, forever".
This viewpoint is very common in the "99.5%" of the world I'm "missing out on"
? Yes, I suppose that would deserve criticism. There are innumerable common viewpoints about all kinds of things that probably deserve criticism, but I don't think we have the space or time to litigate them all here...again, this is a comment thread responding to the original post...