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My definition of organic =contains carbon so = all food uless you are eating sand for some reason. Just another meaningless tag on US foods imo.
My own definition is: 30% upcharge for the same damned thing in a differently labeled package
You're paying for the label
( looking at you too, "non-GMO" π )
No, no, my food's not genetically modified. It's just been developed via artificial selection for thousands of years.
To be fair, genetic modification and selective breeding are not the same thing. It is funny how one is totally normal and the other is considered negative when they're quite similar
I think some reservations can come out of the idea that the natural environment isn't producing these genetic changes. Just to play devil's advocate.
Edit: does nobody fucking know what devil's advocate means? This isn't my opinion christ. Also there's a bit more depth to the argument though that you guys seem to be really obtuse about.
The natural world tries to kill you all the time. Why are you trusting that!?! Seriously though, both of these arguements are somewhat fallacious. Saying that GMOs are safe because, "It happens all the time in nature." Is the same fallacy that it isn't safe because, "It isn't natural to accelerate the process with genetic modification." Both are just mental shortcuts for people so they don't have to think about the insanely complex topic of GMOs, the effects, and what the right path forward is for all of us.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
I think this is somewhat strawmanning what the point of the argument in this specific case is. They're not appealing to nature being good, that's not the argument.
The point is that if you are genetically selecting for specific genes through modification then you are circumventing the typical process for genetic change. There are lots of unintended effects of genetic changes and there are lots of corrective mechanisms built into DNA when genetically modified through selective processes rather than direct gene splicing. Science is always slow to catch up with analysis of an entourage effect where many other small factors may influence results long term.
I'm not anti GMO and this isn't my opinion as I think GMO products have amazing potential. I'm just sick of people on my side totally misrepresenting this argument as "hurr durr nature good." It's such a smooth brained take.
I'll let someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe carrots were never orange, as in every orange or yellow carrot you buy is GMO
Nearly every food you could theoretically consume is a GMO. The label is intentionally misleading.
Virtually everything we eat now is GMO after countless generations of selective breeding and all that. Ever read about the wild versions of common foods? Bananas, watermelons, corn, all that stuff in their completely natural wild form is unrecognizable from the monstrosities on sale in every grocery store.
Not quite the same. I couldn't get my normal soy milk recently and opted for a more expensive organic type from the same company. It tasted baaaaad. Like idk what the material difference is, but it sucked. The smell was really strong. I think I actually tossed a bunch of it out it was that difficult to drink. Now I just get light if the regular stuff is gone.
X USDA Organic
β IUPAC Organic
Do you consider a tomato a fruit as well? Organic has different meanings depending on the context, just like the culinary vs botanical version of fruits and vegetables.
Source?
The source is mass (internet) hysteria from 5 or 6 years ago. The above poster's claim is false and just silly given the slightest amount of scrutiny.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taco-bell-grade-d-meat/
https://www.mashed.com/110654/truth-taco-bells-seasoned-beef/
While silcon dioxide is used as a food additive, and is found naturally in a lot of food, it's regarded as safe and even has been shown to have health benefits.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide
That's wildly different then the claim that Taco Bell was sued, and had to change formula, because they had so much "sand in their meat."
No, but saying "TB was putting sand in their meat" is wildly misleading, when talking about silica as food additive.