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[–] [email protected] 141 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You're playing with fire, this is how thedonald started. It was all a joke until it wasn't. Then it became a cesspit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

This one was already serious. The worst that can happen is it goes back to what it was before.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It’s also how flat earthers started. 4chan started satirically memeing about flat earth. Then idiots saw it, missed the satire, and picked it up as a serious thing. At that point, 4chan went “this is funnier than any satire we could make” and stood back to watch the crazies launch rockets into the upper atmosphere.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Flat earthers have been around (heh) for centuries. It's mostly a religious thing in order to rebuke science in order to keep people stupid. There's a passage in the bible that refrences the four corners of the earth that gets refrenced by these people as proof. It's a way to keep people in their cult, because the outsiders are the ones who are tricked into beleiving in round earth ftom scientists.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m more of a dinosaur earth guy myself

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

As someone who once played with the Earth's actual distancing math, fuck the both of you.

[–] andros_rex 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I would say that it really became a thing in its current form in the 1800s. Lots of the weird Biblical “literalism” (and I think things like Salafism/Wahhabism) come from the combination of widespread literacy and direct access to the texts + those ideologies that deny that you need anything outside the text to interpret them yourself/solo scriptura.

Like even if medieval T and O maps look “flat” that’s not really what they were trying to communicate. Medieval people knew the world was round.

You can try to calculate the size of the earth yourself the same way Ancient Greeks did.

What we’re seeing now is related to shitposting being taken seriously for sure (the “birds aren’t real” thing has also been making a slow shift from stupid joke to conspiracy therapy, I think that’s how “Helen Keller” don’t real started)

I trace it back a bit further than 4chan though. You start to see it all the way back in the 90s on Usenet, pretty sure that’s around when the Flat Earth Society Forums - which were clearly mostly Poes - started too.

[–] Duamerthrax 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Flat Earth Society was founded in 1956.

4chan's downfall was mainstream media telling everyone that Nazis were on the site, so all the Nazis who were watching mainstream media went to 4chan and without moot running it, they were allowed to fester.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I first found 4chan around 2005 and there definitely Nazis on it. And pedophiles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Absolutely idk what that guy is smoking

[–] garbagebagel 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that 4chan started a lot of this apocalypse that way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

4chan was sold in 2015 and that's when it took a hard right turn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Shoop da woop" was a popular 4chan meme dating to at least 2006. Also the whole "newfag", "oldfag" etc thing has been going on since forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Are those supposed to be far right slogans or something? This was normal stuff at the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

"Fag" is a homophobic slur and "shoop da woop" is a blackface meme and yes it was all very normal 4chan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

My dad used to be on 4Chan all the time in the 2000s, he told me being called a fag was considered a form of endearment, not an insult. I've never heard newfag or oldfag be used by the far right, they typically go for actual insults instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

There was definately a tone shift when the site was bought. People were usually mocked if they were actually right wing over there.

[–] garbagebagel 9 points 2 days ago

Damn, sounds like a familiar story now

[–] cm0002 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yea, but I'm a mod Who's Built Different™️