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Maybe Trump shitting on everything and making Europe realize they don't need the approval of the US to breathe was the best thing that could have happened to Ukraine.
I think the world is starting to wake up that maybe we don’t actually need America, at all. People will go where the jobs and economy is. America might not be that soon enough.
I think that's Putin's plan with Trump. I'm not sure they have something on him more than he's just a complete moron that will destabilize the USA from inside.
The US coup'ed the USSR in 1990 and the eastern block had nothing to eat for ten years.
I was thinking one of the best things that could come out of this is if the US split into multiple countries
That's exactly what Russia has wanted since the cold war "ended". That said, I honestly don't know how we heal from this. A third of the country is bat shit crazy, and the sane among us are never going to join in their fascism. I think Balkanization is, for better or worse, in our future.
Assuming we don't all blow ourselves up first.
No shit. Americans empowered ultranationalist to balkanize the USSR. Have a taste of your own medecine.
I would feel better about this if America didn't have so many nukes...
I genuinely hope Canada has some operational plan in a drawer somewhere of conducting a commando raid into North Dakota and Montana to neutralize our ICBM command centers.
Won’t help with all the SLBM’s (submarine launched) and B-52 launched nuclear weapons that we have…
Every warhead either secured or destroyed in a collapsing country would be a victory, I think.
Yaaa....
Unfortunately the division this time is more rural/urban which would make the logistics of that nearly impossible. If you offered a time for people to move it’d also be vastly lopsided, not to mention things like house prices would crater in some places while skyrocketing in others.
Oh no, house prices, one of the thing that totally works under today's oligarchy I mean free market
I didn't necessarily mean best for Americans, any way you put it they're cooked.
But ya, logistically it's extremely unlikely, that being said California is already talking about secession. So if it did happen it'd likely be certain states (California, Texas, etc.) And not all of them along state lines.
People don't usually think about the long term effects of decisions like this when making them, too.
All it took was a fifth columnist takeover and both sides of my family and my wife's being disconnected from their roots for more than an entire generation... 🥳
Yeah, unfortunately I live here, so while this is great for others, it isn't so great for us.
Those of us who voted for Kamala are victims that unfortunately will have to go down alongside everyone else. Fascist dictatorships have no place in civilized society.
Unhappily married couple, so focused on avoiding misery for a few months of divorce proceedings, decide instead to live miserable every day for the next 30 years.
Dude this was me. It's been over two years because my ex can't seem to make decisions.
I moved out last April. If you can figure something out, which I really hope you can, it's so much better.
BRICS is already eating their lunch. The US is floundering badly.
I think we're in for some rocky times over the next few years, but I think the world will be better off with the USA knocked down a few pegs. They are too large and their general population is too easily swayed by nonsense.
The question is, will the population learn anything by being starved out or will they continue to blame anything but their own hubris?
And the rest of the world, particularly the EU, needs to realize that if they don't pull close together they're going to be squeezed out by large forces in the world. I mean look at the influence it already has as a bloc - if they'd cooperate more closely they could be an equal power to contrast China and the USA. Which is why there are forces working overtime to keep EU nations apart.
UK is still coming to terms with Brexit, which happened in 2020, and many will still argue it was a good idea, just badly executed.
we are, today, russia 15 years ago. i'm putting in as much work as i can to not be russia as it is now in 15 years.
I fear we are well on the path as was described by Robert Heinlein a while back:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22If_This_Goes_On%E2%80%94%22
Unfortunately I don't expect things to go well I'm the states. I really hope I'm wrong in that...
Good question. Germany only "learned" by being forced to change after military defeat (and even so, the AfD has been making progress). That's not going to happen here - it will have to be the harder way, total societal collapse.
Yeah now when the ukrainian kids will be kidnapped and sent to the frontline they will have brand new FAL.
I 100% agree that the changes our former allies are making to be more independent from the US are good for them and probably the world as a whole. I do think the the parallel weakening of the US as a world power is what Putin wants for Trump and his ilk to do. My hope is that the economy is hit so hard and people suffer so much that it spurs change before we're past the point of relatively short term recovery (5-10 years, not 20+).
We just need a handful of Republican reps to decide that they don't actually want to give up all of their power to a dictator and his gang, or that maybe they don't want to be associated with the Nazi party. Just a few change their mind, impeach, and remove. Maybe the first time a member of Congress eats a bullet outside of their residence because someone reached the end of their rope, others will act out of fear. I've got my fingers crossed for who I hope it is.
Just one? My list is far longer.
Intentional word choice to not get banned for calling for violence. But yea, I've got 3 house reps, a governor, and two senators that I wouldn't lose sleep over if I saw their names in the obits.
And therefore the world
Trump does shake shit up and sometimes, good things come out of it. It's not worth the cost of the bad things though, because it's usually everyone below the 1% that suffer.