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If you asked me like 4-8 years ago, I felt kind of neutral about things. Now I don't feel an ounce bit patriotic or proud enough to even state that I'm an American.

Now, when I see an American flag around, I see it as a symbol of fascism, anti-intelluctialism, neo-nazism, and late-stage capitalism amongst other things. If there's an American flag flying on a car, I can totally see that person possessing at least one of those qualities.

I suppose it's good to be self aware and not blindly feel patriotic and ignoring that your country needs improvement.

I don't know what I'm expecting in the comments here but just thought I would get this off my chest.

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[–] ZeffSyde 1 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I may have a chance to travel to Europe for the first time in my life, and I'm worried that the Ugly American stereotype will be factored in to my reception. Probably won't go until things calm down here/the nukes fly.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 5 points 3 hours ago

We (or at least loads of us) understand that while your government is deplorable, a lot of ordinary Americans are not. I guess it would also depend on where you go and how. If you're decked out in TRUMP/MAGA-clothes, then I suppose you might meet quite a few people who will instantly want nothing to do with you. But if you're a normal person, you most likely won't have any issues, aside from questions about U.S. issues.

Just come over. We won't bite. Don't put off your plans because of this. Enjoy yourself and walk around in a sane country for a while. ;)

[–] nexguy 7 points 5 hours ago

We traveled to Spain while wearing a Fuck Trump button in 2018 (Yes cringe i know) . You wouldn't believe the amount of love and laughs we got. Very nice place btw.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely go if you can. I've never experienced any sort of discrimination based on my American nationality in Europe. In general, I think it's assumed that if you're willing to travel and are respectful of the local culture you aren't one of the bad ones. You might get a few questions about your experiences or feelings about the current situation, but that's the most I've seen.

That said, some cities have recently become pretty anti-tourism in general, especially in Spain and Italy from what I've heard. But this isn't against Americans, it's against all tourists driving up housing prices.

[–] ZeffSyde 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks! That is good to know.