wide_eyed_stupid

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[–] wide_eyed_stupid 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It doesn't fucking matter. Illegal or legal, they do not deserve to be sent to Gitmo. Nobody deserves to be sent there.

Or are you somehow arguing that concentration camps are fine, for some people. Then let's hope you don't belong to a group that becomes the other in the future.

And apparently they also arrest legal immigrants now. So eh.. well done, I guess.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah Biden was doing nothing to stop the genocide, and their solution was to help the guy promising to speed it up.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 0 points 2 days ago

No, what I am trying to point out is that all the people who kept repeating the "both sides"-bullshit actually HELPED Trump win. Repeat something often enough and idiots will believe it. I have no actual statistics about this, but I wonder, how many people eventually stayed home because they thought both sides are the same and voting wouldn't matter anyway? How many people just sorta protest-voted Trump because they believed it wouldn't make a difference anyway? How many people actually switched to third party voting because they initially wanted to, and it wouldn't make a difference anyway?

Perpetuating this idea that Kamala was the same helped Trump win. It was repeated by certain people ad nauseam how Trump and Kamala were the same. How you shouldn't vote for democrats because it would be voting for genocide. If they were the same, you'd end up with genocide either way, so then vote for the one who's better on every other topic, no? But no, that's not what they said. It was an intentional campaign to make people not vote for Kamala, either by staying home or voting Trump. Every single thread was full of "both sides"-trolls and 99% of those have mysteriously disappeared since Trump won. I mean, it's logical, their work was done, right?

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 1 points 3 days ago

They do? Huh. I thought they only did that on the boxes, not the eggs themselves. TIL.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 2 points 3 days ago

No, they say they want their 2nd amendment to protect their country from tyrants. But what they really meant was: to help the tyrant.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They won't have to prosecute you if they just arrest you for being 'violent' or 'terrorists' and ship you off to El Salvador.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's just so fucked up, all of it. They've been pumping shitloads of money into their military for so long, it's a behemoth larger than the military of the next, what, 9 countries combined? All that money should have been spent on things that are actually good for U.S. citizens. A better educational system, a healthcare system, more worker protections, a better social security net, trying to fix homelessness, etc.

But now, their humongous military is going to be used against their own people and their allies. And all the while I'm here thinking that a well-educated, healthy, happy populace would have been much less inclined to vote a fascist into office. But hey, they didn't need all that, they were already the best country in the world, right?

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's not a strawman, it's the truth.

Trump is orders of magnitude worse regarding pretty much everything, so even if Kamala is 'the same' on Palestine, all the other stuff would still be better with her in stead of Trump. If you truly believe they are the same regarding Palestine, then they basically cancel each other out, right? Then you should look at everything else and it's quite obvious they are not the same at all.

Look, I don't want to be the person who needs to boil things down to simple math. But don't you think that "Fuck Palestine" is better than "Fuck Palestine. And transgender people. And women. And the environment. And the Department of Education. And migrants, and and and"?

Tell me, how is one not worse than the other?

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 2 points 4 days ago

Well, but there is a pretty significant difference. For example, when the Nazis were planning to send all the German Jews to Madagascar, they were attempting an ethnic cleansing, meaning 'just' their removal - They didn't care when Jews died, but it wasn't their actual plan to slaughter them all. However, when the Madagascar Plan didn't seem possible anymore, they switched to genocide in stead, meaning their extermination.

There is a incredibly huge difference between these two things. And please don't get me wrong, they are both absolutely, unequivocally horrific. Unacceptable, period. But still this difference is important, especially for the victims. In hindsight, I'm sure many people would have wished the Nazis had been successful in their ethnic cleansing. Many more people would have survived.

What Israel has been doing is not ethnic cleansing. They've been systematically killing people for no other reason than "because we want to and we can." I'd call that a genocide. What Trump is describing, however, is ethnic cleansing.

And just to reiterate, I'm not saying it's not bad. It's sickeningly bad. But quite different.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Omg, now I recognize it!

"Your very liiiiiiiives?"

Wow, edit, grammar.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

If you file off the serial number, they can't be traced!

[–] wide_eyed_stupid 2 points 4 days ago

And way too much of the public is cheering it on.

The most mind-boggling part imho. Trump and Musk doing all this shit doesn't surprise me at all. Trump especially has been very clear about the things he wanted to do, Project 2025 wasn't a secret either, and Musk.. well, he's been fascist-adjacent for a long time with his support for right-wingers the world over.. But the fact that normal people can look at this and believe it will make their country better somehow is insane to me.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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