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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The only thing that Americans can do is obvious and yet all I've seen online is finger wagging and "hot takes". Fucking embarassed for you.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If we protest we lose our jobs which means we lose our healthcare. Are you beginning to see how they have us by the balls?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If someone has you by the balls and they won't let go, then cut off their hand.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn't that even more of a reason to protest? It's almost a meme at this point, but the US is the only developed country without universal healhcare. But people keep voting for the party that countless times has threatened to cut even Medicare.

And if a random dude in Germany knows this, every voter in Bumfuck, Nebrahoma should, too, but here we are.

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Almost half of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck. One day of missed work means that their kids could starve.

It's just not that simple. Believe me, we all wish it was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It could be as simple as voting for the right person (Bernie Sanders in the past, maybe AOC in the future), but the fact is most Americans believe what billionaire TV told them and don't want Universal Healthcare.

[–] Soggy 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think you're underselling the effects of fifty years of deliberate, targeted propaganda a bit. This isn't the result of measured thought, this is what happens when you allow a right-wing media apparatus to operate unchallenged for generations. (Not alone, other factors like our national narrative of self-reliance and an erosion of resources and respect for public education are significant. As well as racism since we never properly dealt with the losers of the Civil War)

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 days ago

Good luck on voting for anyone that isn't a token in future elections.

[–] Wogi 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't worry, neither party gives a shit about healthcare. It doesn't matter who we vote for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Bernie Sanders thinks otherwise. But people seem to prefer Clinton and Biden.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

neither party gives a shit about healthcare

Were you born in the last decade or do you not remember Democrats moving mountains just to get Obamacare passed? Which gave me affordable healthcare when I had none.

[–] Wogi 2 points 2 days ago

I worked in health insurance when that happened.

The insurance companies were ecstatic about Obamacare. A big ole fat blank check from the American public, backed by the US government. They had to cover more but the feeling was, and it ended up being true, that they'd claw back their exclusions in court.

Obamacare was a health insurance scheme in a healthcare costume. Maybe at inception it was about healthcare, but after the Democrats spent months trying to negotiate with Republicans and giving them pointless compromise after compromise, and the Republicans still refused to support it, they passed health insurance reform, mandated everyone buy it, and paved the way for the fastest increases in health insurance costs in history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, the democrats haven't given us healthcare either, despite having had the opportunity more than once. Best they've done is make a nationwide marketplace and told us we have to buy healthcare from one insurance corporation or another, or we get fined in the form of additional taxes for not contributing to billionaires.

[–] DarkFuture 3 points 2 days ago

I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either

They gave me affordable healthcare when I was younger (Obamacare). It isn't always about getting exactly what you want, because you never will in politics. It's about scraping and clawing and fighting to get anything, at all. And in my lifetime I've gotten WAY more out of Democrats than Republicans. Respect where respect is due. It took a monumental effort for Obama to get that shit done.

Baby steps to universal healthcare.

But we just lost dozens of baby steps by electing Republicans. Good job voters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They didn't have the votes to pass anything better, and even this the Republicans tried to undo.

Now without McCain (or some similar with some convictions), you can kiss Obamacare goodbye. And I'm 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 2 days ago

And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.

Oh absolutely. Look what happened when McCain shot down the last effort. They didn't go back to the drawing board and re-work it and try again. They just gave the fuck up. After spending years saying they could do better than Democrats.

[–] morphballganon 5 points 2 days ago

And our homes, meaning our family members also become homeless

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

organize, unionize, the second best time is now

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason every American was raised on the mantra of "violence is never the answer" and "if you fight back you're just as bad."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Americans can vote, and a majority of them voted for this a short few months ago. This is exactly what he said he would do. This is what he did the previous 4 years he was in power. Americans want this. They don't even have the excuse of popular vote this time around. They fully committed to this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

thinking that voting is the only necessary political action is how you all boiled the frog

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not fighting in a violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their sense of virtue pearl clutching.

I'm not fighting in a fucking violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their desire to pressure me to fight in a fucking revolution (left accelerationists), I hope they have fun getting shot/tortured by fascists.

I owe both of these groups nothing. I did not choose to be born and I did not choose their revolution, I'm out. I hope they're happy with the shitty world they've enabled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Violent revolution isn't option 2 but it might very well be necessary, and I don't blame you for wanting no part of it but we'll all be thankful if it happens. People have had to make tough choices in the face of fascism and evil throughout history and it's only thanks to them that those things have been rebuffed in the past.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

49% of voters, about a 3rd of eligible voters

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

49.8% (so rounding it would be 50%) and 3 million people more than in 2020. And a whole a while 14 million more than in 2016. Eligible voters who didn't vote made an explicit choice and are equally complicit.

They had a choice of a dumbass and literal criminal and a prosecutor and they made their choice.

[–] DarkFuture 3 points 2 days ago

Yup.

As an American I can confirm that Americans are fucking stupid.

Hope you're comfortable with us having the most powerful military to ever exist. I'm certainly not.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All the 2A nutjobs who have been waiting their entire lives for this turned into fucking crickets.

[–] Soggy 1 points 2 days ago

The nutjobs still think he's on their side, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

If only there was an amendment for that very situation...