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Judge Stephen Yekel, 74, died by suicide in his courtroom on his last day in office after losing a re-election bid.

He was found Tuesday morning at Effingham County State Courthouse, with investigators believing the incident occurred late Monday or early Tuesday.

Yekel, appointed in 2022, had recently attempted to resign but was denied by Governor Brian Kemp.

He was also facing a wrongful termination lawsuit from a former court employee.

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[–] danekrae 78 points 5 days ago (8 children)

re-election bid

En elected judge? That sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Could someone explain to a European how that works? Do they at least have to qualify for election in some ways?

[–] NateNate60 96 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Lot of derision but not much explanation as to how this strange system came to be.

Many state constitutions in the US were written in the 18th and 19th centuries. The key differences relevant here to this discussion were that during these times, suffrage was far more restricted, and communities were far more sparsely populated and isolated.

Prior to the 20th century, suffrage was not universal and generally was restricted to wealthy white men of status, who, as a consequence of their socioeconomic standing, also tended to be more educated and thus better suited to rationally judge the qualifications of office-seekers. A consequence of universal suffrage is that the education level of the average voter goes down.

Most Europeans severely underestimate how few people lived in these states and across how much land they occupied. The US typically granted statehood to its territories when they reached the mid to high five digits in population. The majority of Western states are the same size as the largest European countries. Let me use California as an illustrative example. Its statehood was granted in 1850 and it had a population of 92,597. So just imagine essentially a group of people fewer in number than a single small European city trying to run a piece of territory the size of Germany (California is actually bigger than Germany by 69,000 km²).

What happens in such a scenario is that communities become very isolated and insular. They get used to running their own affairs since basically any model of centralised government is going to fail when your population density is 0.2 people per km².

Understand that aside from tightly-knit indigenous communities (who were branded as "savages" and categorically excluded from participation in so-called "civilised" society) this was literally unsettled land. Empty plains, dry desert, and wild forest for hundreds of kilometres around where there was no law but those of physics.

In these isolated communities, you still need to fill the required leadership roles, but you run into the issue where nobody is particularly qualified to these offices and further still, the townsfolk don't really want to just elect a single person to fill all the other offices by appointments. Rather the best way to fill these offices is by election where the community can get together and decide collectively who is best qualified for office. So how it would go is that everyone entitled to suffrage would, every other year, ride their horses into the county seat, which could take hours, and then listen to the candidates' campaign pitches, vote for whomever they thought was the most qualified for sheriff and county judge, and then go home and never hear from those people again for months on end.

As a result, when these territories were granted statehood, most delegates to the conventions that wrote the state constitutions saw no reason to deviate from these established methods for picking local office-holders.

Edit: I realise this also doesn't explain why these constitutions haven't been amended to allow for appointed judges in the modern US. The reason is because politics in the US is extremely cutthroat and anyone who proposes such an amendment is taking a rather unnecessary risk with their political career because their political opponents can then attack them for taking away power from the voters in favour of "unelected bureaucrats".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

People always underestimate how much the scale of the United States warped governance if we look at it through European lenses

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Hey, thanks for taking the time to write that out, it's a cool bit of context to better understand why you guys have votes for some jobs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

What I like most about this explanation is that there is very little excusing OR blame featured. You mention the sociocultural prejudices (briefly as their relevance to this specific topic is limited) and you use overall very objective language throughout to describe the sociolocultural context of rural communities. 10/10.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

California became a state in 1850, not 1950.

Hawaii was 1959, and was the last state.

[–] NateNate60 11 points 5 days ago

That was a typographical error. I fixed it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hawaii was 1959, and was the last state.

So far. I still hold out hope for ~~Canada~~ Puerto Rico.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You mean ~~Greenland~~ American Samoa?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Never with Republicans in power

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't see why not, though they'd probably want a concession like splitting E. WA and E. Oregon into a new state. Regardless, political power tends to change every 2-4 years, a party retaining control over all three houses for more than that is incredibly rare.

[–] NateNate60 8 points 5 days ago

I point my finger at Joe Manchin and Kristen Synema for sinking the DC Admission Act back in 2021. We were this close to a 51st state! The bill had already passed the House of Representatives and had the support of every other Democrat. Biden said he'd sign it.

[–] EnderLaw 8 points 5 days ago

Good explanation.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's a long way of saying that racist white bros concocted a system of violent control in order to entrench their extreme privilege.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No. Bible belt USA coroners and medical examiners don't even have to have medical degrees, and judges don't need a juris doctor degree.

[–] danekrae 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

medical examiners don’t even have to have medical degrees

Vote for me. Do I look like a necrophiliac?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Well, now that you mention it...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hey, as long as you clean up before the mortician comes, I won't tell anyone.

[–] finitebanjo 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Clean up after they come, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Nah, that's their job.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I know everything about dead bodies. Where all the holes are and how to position ....... nvm... Vote or Die.

[–] ikidd 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I want your vote for me as YOUR county dog catcher.

Sexy, sexy dogs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

BTK serial killer was a dog catcher. Just saying.

[–] Vorticity 22 points 5 days ago

People are giving you somewhat bad information. This may differ in other states, but they do need to have practiced law in Georgia for seven years prior to being allowed to run for election.

Its a dumb system but not completely unregulated.

Other states have various methods of selecting judges. In Colorado, the governor appoints them for their first term, then they are subjected to a retention vote every few years. They rarely lose their retention votes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Appointed judges aren't always all that great.

[–] finitebanjo 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not that dumb, they're people deciding the lives of others so picking them democratically makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is dumb. It is to to states how they do it, but most of the times the state judges are selected via election. Which is tough as a voter it is very hard to learn about a judge especially if the judges supposed to be non partisan (believe in our not, but in some states they declare the part they are in).

IMO the governor should select judges and perhaps give option during election to allow people to recall them if they are grossly biased or something (at that point judge would be well known).

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 5 days ago

They do not (at least not here in Indiana). And you are correct, it is stupid.