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Pluto is a MOTHER FUCKING PLANET
It has enough mass to deform into a spheroid, it orbits on the major plane of every other planet.
"Clearing their orbit" is utter bullshit, Earth hasn't even cleared its orbit that's why we get the Perseid and The Leonid meteor showers.
Fuck you NDT, I know you didn't start it but you SURE as FUCK popularized it.
And I will literally fistfight any of you who disagree idgaf where or when.
The main issue is that if Pluto is a planet, there's like 30 or so others that have to be also, for consistency.
Do they orbit on the general plane of the other planets in the system? COOL! Add them to the list!
IDGAF if we have hundreds of planets, it's always been an arbitrary number and the only reason to keep it small is so kids can memorize the list and that isn't good enough to DISRESPECT motherfucking PLUTO
DNA gives us insight into ancestry that has no parallel in astronomy. When we finally sequence a creature, we pretty much know right on the tree where it goes and stupid fucking crabs and everything that look like them can all get placed in their proper relations when previously purely dissection and observation misled those taxonomy pioneers.
you can't have that kind of bait and switch on celestial objects because what we see is what we see.
The reason that Pluto was smaller than predicted was the fact that the mass calculations assumed a single central object when the perturbations were made by the PLANET/moon system. That doesn't change the fact that it has enough mass to deform into a spheroid and orbits within 20% of the orbital plane.
Nah... Just take the current definition of planet and append "and also Pluto because we're emotionally attached to it" and you're good.
Or, you know, reverse the stupid as fuck arbitrary definition of 'clearing its own orbit' being appended to the definition of a planet. It's that easy.
Nothing more clearly illustrates the intellectual bankruptcy of a netizen than them thinking RnM memes are a mic drop moment.
Do you see ANY memes in my post history used as a shorthand for communication? Even one fuckdamn emoji?!
All of your posts so far
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Ceres is a planet.
Makemake, Hamuhea, Pluto, and Eris can come too I guess.
Charon too
Sure, if they orbit within 20% of the ecliptic like every other real planet. Ceres does but I don't know about the other two and am too lazy to care.
I was with you until this, now it just sounds like blatant pro-Pluto bias. Why would you care so much with Pluto but not with the others, if an injustice is afoot!?
I think it's about the way Charon and Neptune both influence it's orbit and rotation, in ways that, for instance, the Moon doesn't with Earth.
Oh the moon certainly influences our orbit, that's how we get the second tide of the day, just not as much as Charon
And Venus and Mars both have measurable effects on our orbit, just again not to the degree of Pluto.
See this is what pisses me right the fuck off, arrogant people spewing words they don't understand.
OK, my bad. I should have used "to a vastly different degree".
Sorry for being an arrogant mouth-spouter.
You can't help it, hardly anyone including science educators ever really look deep into things.
I will give you this: What the meaning of 'planet' has been has changed over time and shrank and grown until in our modern understanding of astronomy it is hard to rectify our image of the solar system. We used to think our local space was empty except for a handful of traveling lights that moved against the relatively still galactic background and we gave spiritual and mythical importance to those lights because we thought such objects uncommon.
But the truth of it is there's quite a lot of objects that qualify for the original definition of 'planet', as in literally every astronomical body out to the heliopause which includes an obscene amount of mass from the Oort cloud. And even I will consider that ridiculous and worthy of revision.
For the longest time it was just the easiest to see objects, then Lowell predicted the existence of Pluto it made the discovery unusual as it wasn't from direct observation, and personally I think this is the root of astronomers' reason to exclude it. In their minds there is a primacy assigned to the bodies discovered with the naked eye and primitive telescopes as they represent some symbol of the true nature and majesty of the human effort to understand the heavens, and not because excluding Pluto in any way benefits the classification system.
I get that, but it is not a valid reason to downgrade a disproportionately favorite planet for many people. The added requirement is meaningless as it can very well apply to Earth, downgrading our status as well, but of course everyone just makes a silly face and handwaves despite being reminded twice a year in spectacular fashion that Earth has yet to clear its orbital path.
A song for you.
How arrogant to assume everyone in the universe uses spotify
How pointless and pedantic.
I don't think you know what either of those words mean
You can listen to a song on the site without creating an account. You don't have to be a Spotify user to listen to that song. So why do you assume that was the assumption?