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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I feel underrepresented, why don't white dudes have an offensive caricature/stereotype? =(

[–] [email protected] 96 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] lessthanluigi 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You know you had to do it to 'em

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Do what, exactly? That's a source of pride, not shame.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641 8 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Because "white" is a category of exclusion, defined by being not not-white. It is vague and historically flexible - it may or may not include Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks or Poles depending on who you ask and where & when you happen to be at the time of asking.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Amusingly, quite a lot of people still excuse Armenians and Azerbaijani people, despite them literally living in the Caucasusn and being the definition of Caucasian

[–] nifty 10 points 5 months ago

Also may not include Latin Americans, Slavs or mixed race people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Russians and Germans historically tend to exclude each ofher.

I started using non-whites as a broad category of every race / ethnicity that is excluded by the US mainstream, specifically the transnational white power movement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

While technically correct, saying it's a category of exclusion kind of makes it sound negative, when it's exclusive quality is basically defined by privilege. Whether Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks, or Poles counts basically entirely depends on how normalized and privileged they are in any given greater subsect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

That makes a lot of sense! I've wondered why sometimes white just feels like a non-race

[–] Stovetop 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Depends on your traditional definition of "white" but Notre Dame has the "Fighting Irish" as mentioned by @[email protected]

[–] Zoomboingding 15 points 5 months ago

Except this is a source of pride for the Irish. It was first coined for the Irish immigrant soldiers who fought for the Union during the Civil War in what became called the Irish Brigade.

[–] Melvin_Ferd 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ooh, this is a pretty good one

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's that picture of an American Indian man wearing a "Caucasians" shirt floating around the internet, and every time I see it I can't help but laugh. Edit yeah someone has already posted it in this thread.

Also, do the Minnesota Vikings count?

[–] grue 6 points 5 months ago