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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The hush money one is the first one to actually go to trial, so it's mostly that. The documents case is basically suppressed until they can somehow get rid of this judge, and the other 2 cases are also being held up in places.

The hush money case isn't likely to put him in prison though, I don't think there's any precedent of a politician going to prison for that. And of course there's going to be appeals that can easily push it until past November.

[–] AbidanYre 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's plenty of precedent for locking people up when the steal classified documents. It doesn't matter if they're a politician.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By 'this one', I meant the hush money case. I agree that the documents case is the most serious one (and also deliciously ironic given his 2016 criticism of Hillary's classified emails).

[–] AbidanYre 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I apologize for misinterpreting your comment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I edited it because it was ambiguous, no need to apologise.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that there's a pretty ironclad contract between the government and a cleared individual. This is really just a matter of enforcement, and it's hard to see how this isn't one of the most brazen and extensive cases of mishandling classified material. Better people have gone to prison for a lot less, so I say again: no justice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have known of people getting dishonorable discharges for simply looking at classified information they were not supposed to, careers over due to misunderstanding or picking a document up after an accident.

If someone other than Trump had all these documents they would be gone from the earth. We would never hear from them again as the FBI went through their life to figure out who else was involved and how they got away with boxes of these documents.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Literally just ready an article this morning that a Navy seaman got 18 years in prison for leaking information after being socially engineered by a foreign agent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was in for ten years, and a battle buddy of mine was telling me about a soldier in his platoon who got the other than honorable discharge over classified stuff.

Here is what happened: car accident on post, stuff is all over the intersection. The guy is an E5, already deployed once, is by all means upper crust for a career. One of the people in the accident was the G2. The E5 sees there are classified documents. Calls it in, but decides to help out and scoops them all up into a neat little pile and secures them in his vehicle. He then sits in his vehicle so they are secure.

This is entirely against what he should have done as there was no risk the documents would have blown away. The only reason he didn’t get prison time was due to having an ArCom for Valor. But he is gone and his army career was over at that point for mishandling - simply mishandling - classified documents.

Trump has fucking pallets of them, and “oh gosh, what do we do? UwU it’s sooo tricky!!”

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, what did the E5 do wrong? Should have left it out in the intersection?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

I think the big thing was him being alone in the car with all of it.

I don’t know what to do in that situation to be honest, but it’s probably a “secure the scene and make sure no one goes in or out” type of deal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

The Supreme Court may well just decide that Trump has absolute immunity, depending on what their pay masters tell them to do.