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[–] [email protected] 180 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

News articles like this speak loudly about who this kind of news is written for.

The article headline makes it sound "dangerous" and "bad" for the "lenders." Billions on the line!

It's never "billions on the line for consumers!"

Profits for corporations are always treated by news media as a given and anything interrupting them, including people's real lives, are less important.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Won't anyone think about the poor milti-billion bollar corporations

[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this again is why I will pipe in I like biden. So many things have come out of the agencies of this administration. He can't make congress function but he can sure as heck streamline stuff at the executive level.

[–] hansl 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But I heard people disagree with some of his stances, so it’s a coin toss between him and that other guy who quotes Hitler /s

[–] gibmiser 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fuck yeah this is a win for consumers, assuming there is no loophole or other way to bypass this regulation... Assuming...

[–] Mamertine 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Loophole of the "payment not received on time fee" of $40.

Obligatory - Join a credit union. They're non profit financial institutions that offer the same service as a bank. As a non profit, their fees and rates are much better.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Not always.

https://www.cutoday.info/Fresh-Today/Washington-State-Employees-CU-Paying-2.99M-To-Settle-Overdraft-Lawsuit

Washington State Employees Credit Union famously lost a lawsuit over overdraft fees. You can bet your ass if it's an accepted practice at major banks, your Credit Union can and will do similar things, if they want to.

[–] shadowSprite 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

When I moved states and closed my accounts with the local bank I'd been with since my first bank account (and never once paid a fee to) I looked into the credit unions in my area. The fees were absurd, I finally found one that looked decent and then found that there was a $6 fee any time you transferred or withdrew money from any savings accounts. I'm not paying to access my own money. Ended up going with another small local bank and haven't paid a fee yet. Customer service is great too, I give them a call and get a real person the next county over and the few times I've actually gone to a branch they've been almost too nice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I probably come off as a Fidelity shill with how much I've mentioned them on Lemmy, but it's a genuinely good platform for banking. They're not a traditional bank. They're a brokerage that offers checking and savings accounts that you can directly buy/sell securities with.

I moved all my assets to them after Chase pissed me off one too many times and it was the greatest decision I've ever made. Account to account transfers are instant (I've transferred like $60k and they didn't give a fuck) and they front you the money for external incoming transfers that are still in pending. You never have time periods where you can't access your money because it's in the ether that is our antiquated banking system.

No minimums, no transfer fees, no stock/ETF purchase fees, and they pay ATM withdrawal fees automatically (including my $10 ATM fee in Vegas). The one time I had to call them to request a chargeback on my credit card the whole call, including waiting, took 5 minutes.

By far my favorite feature though is you can buy into money market funds like SPAXX in your normal accounts, so you get 5% APY on your money. However, it's still treated as normal USD so any transactions automatically pull from it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The problem is finding them. I'm still chained to a credit union in another state years after I moved, just because I cannot find a local credit union in my city that will accept me. Plenty of ones for teachers, cops, firefighters, and veteran's, but they won't let a Joe Shmoe with an office gig store money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You could join an online credit union such as Alliant Credit Union. It costs $5 for a membership that they'll pay for you, though there are other options that you can easily join yourself for membership.

The $20/mo ATM fee rebate is nice.

[–] Mamertine 3 points 11 months ago

Wild! I've got nearly 20 in my metro area to choose from. I assumed that was the case in most populous areas.

[–] candybrie 3 points 11 months ago

Have you tried talking to them? Almost every credit union I've talked to had some loophole type thing to join, like "Donate $5 to this organization, and now you fall under X."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

$8 fee but at 75% interest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Monthly account fee of $40, waived for on time payments.

[–] zeppo 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love the bank system of charging you extra money for being broke. Have they capped overdraft fees yet or addressed how they run charges from highest to lowest to maximize fees?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

I would like the nixing of closing account fee. You should not be allowed to charge folks to leave. Actually and no hiding with the contract crap.

[–] ohlaph 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The banks won't take a billions hit, they will simply start charging for something else.

[–] billiam0202 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not a "late fee", it's a "past due convenience charge"!

[–] einlander 12 points 11 months ago

An account restoration fee.

[–] FlyingSquid 21 points 11 months ago

Yeah, well, fuck lenders. I hope it's bad for them. It should be bad for them.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I got rid of my bank accounts after my direct deposit got messed up and they hit me with a "monthly maintenance fee" for being under their minimum.

Switched to a credit union super fast.

[–] Death_Equity 3 points 11 months ago

I've been with a credit union for over a decade now, never looking back.

[–] _number8_ 18 points 11 months ago

it's not like they don't make that shit in interest in a day anyway

[–] phoneymouse 11 points 11 months ago

Peg it to the federal minimum wage.

[–] newthrowaway20 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think it should be lower still. $5 max.

But really they need to go after interest rates. That's where the real theft occurs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Make it like the new college debt rules. If you are making the minimum payment, then your total balance can't go up. Interest can't be higher than the minimum payment (which is also capped)

[–] DoomBot5 0 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a great low interest loan to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Should be 0. If you're late on a payment, you pay compounding interest. The idea that you can somehow charge a fee on top of that is absolutely insane.

[–] seaQueue 4 points 11 months ago