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I mean come on! Like, sure ok then, please go on ahead.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Still almost a year of this shit to go.

It's a wonder so many Americans still care at all, given they're bombarded a stream of shit constantly.

[–] TIMMAY 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I dont really feel like i have any choice but to tune this stuff out 98% of the time. Like it or not I live here and I still need to go to work and do normal every day things to not die and help my pets also not die, so constantly eating shit by obsessing over this crisis on the regular just is not viable. I AM obsessing over it on the regular, I'm just at *the point where I have to start trying not to.

[–] jennwiththesea 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot are tuning out. WA state saw the lowest voting rates since the 1930s during the 2023 election. (Though TBF, there was nothing really big on the ballot. Mostly local elections, which tend to get low turnout.)

[–] TheBat 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is exactly what Republicans want

[–] LemmysMum 5 points 10 months ago

Politicians love non-voters, one less idiot you need to convince.

[–] superduperenigma 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's because his entire campaign is a VP audition.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

But how does he get VP if he tells the entire Republican party to not be on the ballot?

He absolutely is going for the Sarah Palin route of VP picks

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

For all those other non-Americans like me who are not completely up to date on this:
Trump was barred by the Colorado Supreme Court from appearing in the Republican primary in the state because of his role in the January 6 insurrection, reversing a previous decision by a lower court that ruled that while Trump did engage in insurrection, he's technically not an "officer of the United States", which apparently makes insurrection OK. This will almost certainly go to the US Supreme Court which appears likely to overturn it, given some of their previous decisions and the fact that it contains 3 Trump appointees. Colorado is a solidly Democratic state which is very likely to go to Biden anyway, but the decision still seems quite important, given that this is the first time something like this has happened.
Trump's campaign called the decision "undemocratic", Biden's campaign declined to comment.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

SCOTUS would have to rule that States can not hold their own elections which would violate the Consitution. Odds are they won't hear the case.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't they just reinterpret the insurrection clause? That has no besring on states holding their own elections.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most clauses are pretty legalize, but Congress wrote the 14th Amendment in plain English.

[–] ashok36 7 points 10 months ago

And amendments supercede all preceding verbiage in the constitution. The only way out of being disqualified by the 14th is to have congress vote on it as provided for in the amendment.

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[–] JakenVeina 9 points 10 months ago

SCOTUS these days can and will make up whatveer the fuck rationalization they want to justify any decision, and then tagline it with "but this only applies to this one specific scenario" to keep from locking themselves out of ruling the opposite way next time.

Last year (or earlier this year?) they ruled on a case where the event that triggered the suit was literally made up and never happened, and everyone knew it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

No, all they have to do is say that the POTUS is not an "Officer" therefore loophole for exactly one person in history.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

They've nearly done it before with the 2000 election.

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[–] qqq 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good explanation but a little nit: Colorado is a very purple state. We're the home of Lauren Boebert and Focus on the Family after all.

I don't think a Republican has won the presidential vote since GW Bush here though

[–] Fades 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s all about setting a precedent. Just look at how many states are trying to open up investigations on the false electors following in the footsteps of other states.

[–] hydrospanner 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly.

With this ruling, maybe you get a Virginia or a New Jersey or an Oregon to take up a similar case and yield a similar decision now that the stigma of being first is gone.

And if one becomes two becomes five likely blue states who issue these 14A rulings (not that it will, but hypothetically) then you might see a Nevada or an Arizona or worst case for Trump, even a Wisconsin, Ohio, or Pennsylvania case break that way.

And if that happens, honestly, that might cook his goose.

It's a very, very long shot. Realistically, I expect SCOTUS to overturn this, and for that to be that on this front.

I've also wondered what happens if, say, SCOTUS overturns the Colorado ruling and Colorado in response basically says, "Hey fuck yourself SCOTUS, we run elections the way we chose, and at least in Colorado, his name's not going on the ballot regardless of what you say." I know there's not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, but like...what would happen next? Does the federal government send in their own election staff all across the state with their own machines and the ballot that SCOTUS dictates? Do they arrest the governor? Do they nullify the state's electoral votes?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Has Trump won a single ruling that has made it to SCotUS?

[–] books 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This guy is way more scary than trump.

He is truly a fucking psychopath.

[–] SoleInvictus 9 points 10 months ago

Plus a fucking moron OR he's doing a great job pretending to be one.

[–] drmeanfeel 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's more psychopathic than Trump, he's just younger, more debate bro-ey, does the same "I over articulate so everything I say is right" as Michael Knowles (fellow psychopath). They're doing their best Patrick Bateman impression while Trump does Rodney Dangerfurher

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like he was really running for the VP seat. His reaction here tracks perfectly with that.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Big brain move trying to be VP to the guy who could die of a burger overdose.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or have their own supporters try to lynch them.

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[–] Cosmicomical 29 points 10 months ago

Great move, I 100% support it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

If conservatives knew the concept of solidarity, they'd be leftists.

[–] FuglyDuck 27 points 10 months ago

Wait…. This isn’t satire??

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

He should call DeSantis a pussy for not quitting. That will probably work.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

how to turn a vote where you're guaranteed to get your dick knocked inside out into a martyrdom. not that I think it'll help him any, but still...

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 10 months ago

"I am going to lose as hard as I possibly can."

-- Vivek Ramaswamy

[–] Chickenstalker 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why are the biggest chuds in the West ALWAYS be the Indian diaspora?

[–] NIB 25 points 10 months ago

Overcompensating to show they are part of the "in group". Kinda like the lone white dude in a black gang, you know he is the craziest one.

[–] grue 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Serious answer: my guess is that it's because the Indians that have the means to immigrate tend to be the upper-caste types. The fact that a lot of them immigrate on small-business/investment visas (self-selecting for "rugged individualists") only enhances that.

It's similar to the reason why Cuban-Americans are often right-wing: they're the ones who fled when Castro took over, while the leftist ones stayed in Cuba.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

not only do they self-select for "rugged individualists", but there's another layer of filtering upon entry into politics. There's a special kind of arrogance it takes to look at big, complex, thorny problems that arise in politics and go "I can fix it". That and tech bros are the new finance bros, so used to being lauded in their space that they just wander into other spaces and assume that they're already well-regarded experts and that the reason those areas still have unsolved problems is just that no one has thought about the solutions hard enough yet.

[–] Viking_Hippie 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are they, though? Far as I can tell, it's just this freak and Dinesh D'Souza. Not that they aren't both truly loathsome lunatics, but that's just two amongst millions of chuds, hundreds to thousands of publicly prominent ones..

[–] eskimofry 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Oh yeah. Priti Patel too. Guess there IS a lot!

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[–] xkforce 13 points 10 months ago

Oh no please dont... /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your confidence is disproportional to your abilities. You think losing is winning.

[–] uid0gid0 6 points 10 months ago

I'm bleeding, making me the victor.

[–] ohlaph 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Next he shows the face to foot move

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I'm bleeding, making me the victor

[–] lightnegative 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If you've got an arse I'll kick it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I'm bleeding, making me the victor

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[–] RGB3x3 6 points 10 months ago

And I always write his name exactly as it should be spelled:

Ramasmarmy.

Because he's a smarmy loser.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

He's such a useless clown.

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