Reddit

Some people have trouble letting go I guess. First of all, after all that has happened why any developer would choose to continue doing business with Reddit is beyond me. Reddit has demonstrated they will shaft you on a moment's notice (ok a month's notice), go back on their word, lie about developers for PR points, etc. Reddit is not a good business partner.

Second, who is this even for? What percentage of Relay users are going to pay for a limited version of Reddit with usage limits? The only reason Reddit is making these deals with Relay and Narwhal is because Reddit thinks they won't succeed in staying alive. Reddit thinks the vast majority of Relay/Narwhal users will decide its too expensive to use these apps to get a worse experience, so will end up on the official app. Reddit gets to hold these up as examples of reasonable developers who were willing to work with Reddit, unlike those crying babies that are closing their apps. And if Reddit is wrong, and Relay/Narwhal stay profitable and active, then we're just back to point 1 - Reddit will just turn the screws on the API pricing until they get crushed.

This just feels like an abusive relationship. Dave just needs to accept reality - Reddit TPA's are dead (and Reddit as a whole isn't long for this world either). I've used Relay for years, very disappointed in the developer. I'm still deleting July 1.

It's disheartening that they are the ones that got screwed and yet they keep supporting the company...

They, and the Infinity dev, will just get fucked by Reddit in some way. Again.

I can't believe that with the API pricing the way it is, it's financially viable to continue developing this app. It only makes sense if Spez offered this (and some other developers) a backroom deal (complete with NDA).

Spez has shown himself to be a lying, vindictive douche. If he can make Christian Selig look bad (for exposing reddit and Spez himself for what he is), it's something he would appear to relish. The way Spez doubled-down on his vindictive and defamatory statements during the AMA just goes to show that there's no level he won't sink to.

Also, if the API pricing was lowered - it's a last minute sign of (quietly) back-tracking given the immense backlash it has caused.

The initial API pricing was meant to drive out all reddit clients. It seems to me that reddit clients still operating after July the 1st have received (much) lower API pricing (or are not being charged at all - in the case of RedReader). It's just too expensive otherwise.

This seems quite clever by Reddit. It looks like there's some deal that if they remove ads from their apps they get free api usage for a few months. Seems suspicous that both apps doing this have removed ads.

This will soften the blow a little for Reddit as now at least 1 decent sized 3rd party app on each platform (Android/IOS) will continue to work for a while.

A clever PR move that changes nothing.

Oof

Relay was my go-to app.... But I'm done with Reddit. Make Relay for Lemmy! Re...mmy?!

I don’t see how this would be successful. It’s a gutted version of the API as it is. Sanitized. No NSFW subs. Reddit as it was is dead and even if Apollo and BaconReader came back I would still not go back.

This subscription costs will end up in Reddits pocket. Why would you want to do that?

Anyone considering : cut bait and move on.

It's displaying reddit content still? For money? Lmfao

Long time user of Relay, and I really feel for DBrady - He's being baited so hard into thinking there's an easy way out of this for Relay. The bargaining phase hitting hard.

It's sad that these devs don't realize that they are being used.

Even with a subscription cost for the API, users still won't be getting any NSFW posts. That includes porn obviously but there was also tons of non-porn NSFW content in subs like /r/drugs, /r/sex, etc.

Interested to see how this works out for them and how strongly he'll be able to optimize his app, I'd be keen on getting a breakdown of user statistics (to see how many calls are getting done every hour for example)

Maybe with some of these apps still sticking around, the migration to the fediverse will benefit because less people will be flooding these new spaces all at once

I've been a Relay user for a long time, but the time has passed. I would have been happy enough to pay a small monthly fee for the app, but Reddit's days as being the only real option are over.

I might subscribe for a bit just to toss the dev some $$$ because I've been using the pro version for years. I think the way he explained it is that he pays reddit based on the usage and any additional goes to him. So if I subscribe and make barely any API calls, he should make out nicely and reddit won't get much.

This is the first news I've read about relay, how come it's so much later than all the other apps?

And I did like relay, easy and to the point.

Apart from having to pay for a neutered Reddit experience due to nsfw being disabled completely... actually, "apart" is the wrong word, that's just it. You'd be paying for a neutered Reddit experience. You literally are going to have to pay a monthly fee to scroll r/all once a day for 30 days.

To each their own but when Apollo died, Reddit died for me. It would feel disrespectful to continue to use Reddit at this point, both to the devs forced off and to myself.

This is just sad. If I was talking to Dave, I’d say “I’m sorry you had to go through this, but playing along with reddit’s demands is not the answer. I know it’ll be hard to turn your back on something that you’ve spent years refining, but it’s time to move on.”

I wish DBrady nothing but the best. I've used the paid version of his app for over 10 years, since before it was Relay. I won't be using Reddit going forward, but if this arrangement works for him, then I don't fault him for doing it.

Used Relay since it was called Reddit News, i wish DBrady the best, but it's too late, my 17 years old account is now gone, and am leaving the site.