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[–] oDDmON 152 points 1 year ago (7 children)

There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.

BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;

Is that true though?

We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.

I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.

[–] mesamunefire 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a lot of nice people, that's for sure. It's a night and day difference.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

metric FUCKTONS less toxicity

I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it's a large part of why users are leaving. What's more is that there's not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.

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[–] thehatfox 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well even if I wanted to go back to Reddit, I couldn't use it without a decent mobile app, and all of those no longer exist.

Communities don't spring up fully formed, they grow over time with many rises and falls in activity along the way. Lemmy is still young and we can all do our part to help it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And using the mobile web site is a pain in the ass, too. Won't stop nagging me to use the app. No, I do not want to use your shitty app!

At this point I only use it when a thread comes up in a search result, or occasionally to check /r/buildapcsales

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah the thing about Lemmy is that people immediately expect it to be a reddit clone with all the same niche communities. Reddit didn't start off with thousands of communities on Day 1. It started off as Reddit. Then they added NSFW and pics. It took decades to grow. People that expect Lemmy to appear with all those same communities overnight but it's just not gonna happen. You've got to give it time. Instead of posting in your favorite football team's community, you might have to post to the NFL community. Eventually as we grow, more niche communities will spring up.

[–] weeahnn 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Now I'm sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.

Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.

I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.

There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.

[–] Coaster45 21 points 1 year ago

Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There's the 90-9-1% rule for a reason

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, I imagine a lot of people created profiles on more than one instance while making the transition and then abandoned the others.

I originally started on lemmy.world but now just use fedit.uk...

[–] Ledger2 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty heavy lurker here. Maybe I need to start doing my part and raise those numbers

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[–] TORFdot0 53 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Does it matter if Lemmy is losing users? I haven't noticed my feeds losing active users even if it's down across the fediverse. Besides they'll be back the next time Reddit has another unpopular decision which should take about another 3 months

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it very much matters WHY Lemmy is losing users. If it's a fixable problem, well then we should fix it gahdamnit

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[–] Fosheze 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I would never have guessed Lemmy is losing users if every other meme wasn't about it. Stuff still seems just as lively now as it was a couple months ago.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we'd ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we'll be better prepared.

[–] Kyle_The_G 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need more "subs" like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT... I'd engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don't have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It'll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Losing users is fine as long as a steady core remains. The summer growth was explosive, so some shrinking is expected.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also I'm sure there were a lot of accounts made on different intances before people settled into one account

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[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Users who made multiple accounts across multiple instances to deal with constant outages are just not using their alts as much. No need to.

The amount of regular posts has gone up, too, so that means the people who are staying are more consistently interacting

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There’s not QUITE enough content here for my short-ass attention span, but I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.

[–] _wizard 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Without RIF, I don't ever go back when mobile. I also don't spend much time on my desktop leisurely, so I'm barely there these days.

With Jerboa, I'm here multiple times a day.

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[–] Nihilore 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can we leave the cringe self censorship behind? Lemmy isn’t beholden to advertisers and thus has no need to be “family friendly”

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honored to have my meme reposted. Fuxk Spez

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[–] DBT 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I visited old.reddit a few times in the last week, after deleting my 10+ yo account in July and ditching Reddit altogether, and it just isn’t the same anymore. The content just isn’t good like it used to be.

Lemmy has plenty of room for improvement, and often feels like it’s just an RSS feed, but I genuinely prefer it now over current Reddit.

Fuck Spez.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

For anyone who still checks reddit, Rdx.overdevs.com is an a mobile-friendly way to browse. No ads and you can still view nsfw subs. You can import a list of subs you follow, but you can't post (which to me is a feature more than a bug).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't it pretty much expected? There was a massive boost during the API controversy then it dropped off as the number of active users stabilised. I don't think Lemmy will immediately replace Reddit like people want it to, just a slow gradual migration of communities. After all the migration from Digg to Reddit took years. I've got no doubt that Reddit will make more dumb decisions that will push more over to Lemmy.

Honestly I just want communities like /r/framework to move over and some UK subs like /r/frugaluk and /r/casualuk then I'm happy.

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[–] jacktherippah 16 points 1 year ago

I get more engagement here so Reddit can suck it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I'm sticking with the fediverse for my social media no matter how small it gets because corporate social media is just that incredibly toxic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I've been spending more time on Discord lately, but I'm sure not going back to reddit. Tbh I've really disconnected from spaces where I was/would be exposed to right wing extremists and hatred of me. Instagram obviously has it's problems, but the algorithm won't allow me--a trans lesbian stoner--to view hateful content without a fight. If I need to see some fringe beliefs and content, I'll dive head first into the Hexbear pool!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

We have already matured significantly since the initial rush. There will be another rush, and we'll be in an even better state then.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Since when is lemmy losing users

[–] zorflieg 13 points 1 year ago

I cheat on Lemmy with Tumblr but Reddit is the ex I shook.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's better to have fewer users, as far as I'm concerned. Every sub I was part of in reddit when the sub started was great when it was small, and then became trash as it got bugger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The lack of internet points will keep away the karma-whores, but there could definitely be more users here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Great typo, keep it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This place is better for me for all uses other than random web search results where a Redditor posted something I’m looking for.

On Lemmy, it feels worthwhile to participate and interact with everybody. The quality of users helps, but the lower quantity doesn’t hurt either.

[–] O_i 9 points 1 year ago

I go back every now and then because a community I follow hasn’t fully integrated here yet and omg reddit is getting worse, more ads than posts and posts seems to be bots more and more, won’t be long now. Fuck spez

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny enough I downloaded the reddit app this week and created an account again.

Unfortunately theres not enough niche content on lemmy.

But damn do I dislike that app. It consistently pushes me away. Maybe Sync app is the only thing keeping me on Lemmy.

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[–] Skkorm 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just throwing this out there: Firefox mobile with Adblock let's you used Reddit without giving them any ad rev

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Hello, new Lemmy user here. Obligatory fuck spez. Not sure how I feel about the baby emoji next to my username though lol

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