I think it's just survivorship bias, kinda like mastodon. The people inclined to come here are probably anti-corporate, and sick of current social media's bullshit.
Showerthoughts
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted, clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts: 1
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- No politics
- If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
- A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
- If you feel strongly that you want politics back, please volunteer as a mod.
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct
If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report the message goes away and you never worry about it.
I think the barrier to entry also helps a bit. The folks willing to put up with the rough edges that Lemmy has are also likely willing to participate with the intent of making Lemmy a success rather than just "hangers on" as it were. With a 1600% growth in "active" user population, there are definitely a ton of lurkers, yet. Once it becomes more approachable, we'll see if the community feeling that Lemmy has begins to tarnish and fade as the volume of interaction and content rises.
I have been thinking this over the past week on reddit every time I see a "Lemmy/Kbin needs to sort out X, Y and Z otherwise it's going to fail massively." or "Lemmy/Kbin is impossibly hard to use/sign up for". Usually with CAPITAL LETTERS and emojis.
Like... ok. I don't think you'll be missed with that attitude. At least for the time being.
I was thinking the same, especially after seeing several posts "demanding" Lemmy to change this and change that.
I mean, that's not to say there's no room for improvements, but if the first thing some people do when going to a new platform is wanting changes to meet their personal way of doing things, instead to try and adapt first to how the platform works and learn from it, in my opinion it means those people are not really interested in being here and make lemmy succeed, they're just following the "flavor of the month" and won't last long here anyway.
I think the fediverse being not so intuitive might be a very good thing actually, it can act as a sort of filter so it doesn't succumb to the masses ruining everything, hopefully.
Just deleted my reddit account. This is now my new scrolling home... lol
Personally, and I am bias, I think everyone here is nice and chill because everyone who actually dropped Reddit are principled enough to not just say they hate a change and then do nothing about it.
Yep, exactly. The people that want a better Internet, my kinda people.
Not for any particular reason, but for a variety of reasons that work together to make it even better. I have listed just a few of them. Feel free to add to the list as you see fit.
- No king of the hill.
- No hidden corporate interests.
- No karma system.
- Rejection of toxicity. The flow of conversation is civil and has a good vibe.
- The Federation functions as an engine of accountability.
- A bunch of people who actively contribute to making this a good place.
- A vocal community that actually determines what content is important.
- The initial difficulty to make sense of it all (call it a "barrier to entry" if you will) acts as a natural deterrent to those who are less engaged.
- Lurkers who sign up quickly feel comfortable posting.
- The ability to sign up for a particular instance and leave if for some reason you find it's going in a direction you do not agree with. Lemmy's decentralized nature saves the day.
- The influx of refugees includes experienced people with a lot of knowledge to make this an even better place.
- The prospect of a quick release of reputable third-party apps. Since these developers bring solid knowledge from previous developments, their new Lemmy apps will immediately translate into a smoother user experience.
I am looking forward to great days ahead.
I can't speak for everyone. I've been lurking for the past couple weeks and just signed up yesterday. The prevailing attitude I've noticed is that people realize just how much of a toxic hog lagoon reddit has become, and are glad to participate in a community that isn't. It's nice to be somewhere that isn't full of bots and doesn't coddle nazis.
I also think it helps that most of the onboarding literature is frontloaded with "this is how federation works" instead of jumping right in to "here's how you sign up and use lemmy." Effectively scares off the reading-averse.
If considering that to be a plus makes me an elitist, I'm ok with that.
It’s nice to be somewhere that isn’t full of bots and doesn’t coddle nazis
Depends on instance...
My last one wouldn't defederate from a shitshow instance full of transphobia, threats of violence, and basically anything else you'd see on 4chan.
Apparently all that was just a "difference of opinions" so my old instance said it was fine.
The problematic instance also had a lot of posts shitting on this one for defederating them, so I just signed up a new account here.
I think that's the best part of Lemmy, it's easy to just drop an instance and find another that aligns more with what you want out of it.
A decade from now if the biggest instance pulls a spez, everyone would just move to a new instance
This is really such a great example for why Fediverse and FOSS in general are the superior and much healthier way for society's social media interactions to go. Hopefully, some day in the near future, unprofitable social media monoliths like Meta, Twitter and Reddit will be so blatantly exploiting of their user base that even normies migrate to free software alternatives and the era of ultra-capitalist mega-corporations in social media encouraging hate and toxicity will finally be over.
Lemmy kinda sucks for me right now. Laggy, buggy, awkward.... I love it. Looking forward to being part of its growth and development.
If people complain about the stability they were clearly not around for the early days of Reddit. It was flakey as hell.
I think it’s partly a selection effect of who bothered to come here. On the positive end, scrolling All is more likely to show things relevant to me I wouldn’t have found.
On the negative end there are few comments to interact wjth
One time, when runescape did a supermassive bot ban, people began complaining that once crowded areas of the game felt eerily empty now that only real people were there.
Not to say reddit is all bots, but my experience with Lemmy so far has been that it’s less crowded but the people here feel very sincere. Not a terrible thing. Still have more scrolling and reading to do than I have time to do it, and the quality seems even better.
supermassive bot ban
The Muse cover that no-one expected
I think it’s partly a selection effect of who bothered to come here. On the positive end, scrolling All is more likely to show things relevant to me I wouldn’t have found.
On the negative end there are few comments to interact wjth
Reddit is too popular and has too much group think, too many of the same types of comments that will get a lot karma, and too many comments that will just be ignored.
NEW is a garbage dump or a pile of duplicates. So why comment on a new post? It will never go anywhere. HOT is already full of comments, so your comment will just be lost.
In Italy we call it "mountain path behavior": just like in our mountain paths, as long as it is few people you meet you behave cordially and in a friendly manner, but it changes when the number of people goes up.
Oh, this is actually what I clicked and not a baseball post
Realistically, this is one of the reasons Lemmy is so good right now. The masses generally don't put up with alpha software. Honestly, I like it this way. Improvements are good, but there's something about seeing something grow and develop
The real trick is getting BACK to the baseball post
The reason is federation. People actually happen to be pretty good at holding each other accountable and self-regulating when there isn't a central authority deciding what is and isn't acceptable. Bad actors naturally gravitate toward the instances that welcome them, and then the rest of us defederate from those instances to maintain the peace. Those bad instances then stagnate or fizzle out from the inactivity.
On centralized social media, what stays and goes isn't dictated by the community but a handful of people at the top, and troublemakers are often given a bigger platform than they would have had otherwise.
Mastadon is a lot bigger and older than Lemmy is, and yet it still has the same vibe as this place.
Platforms are fun in the beginning because everybody has a voice. This nurtures a lot of creativity and energy. However, as ad revenue starts to flow, advertisers demand that the platform banish fringe opinions and undesirable voices (the magic keyword is brand safety). As a result moderation ramps up, and kills the creativity and energy that made it fun and interesting.
This is why Lemmy works (for now).
So we got 10 years for the cycle to repeat if lucky?
I'm fine with that lol
I know what you mean, it feels like we're all on an adventure together to discover what the new front page of the internet will be!
Pretty awesome to be part of something new and growing.
It feels somehow nostalgic and exciting. Makes it lot easier to forget Reddit.
I guess you could say the particular reason Lemmy is so good right now is the friends we made along the way
All I can picture for lemmy users right now is an excited dog at a dog park that is just loving life and wants to say high to every other dog and is wagging his tail so hard that his whole ass is wagging.
It reminds me of internet forums of the days of yore that are long gone. People answering each other's questions. No need for moderators to have rules like, "don't call each other names" blah blah blah. It's kind of funny, but you know, the Internet had a dark age when everyone was nicer to each other. Lemmy brings that kind of social interaction back to the fore. In another stream, someone disagreed with me and did it nicely and I learned something. Give me more of THIS. And give me less of people replying with "this"
For me is the (for now) lack of repost. Those fuckers plagued my home page for years.
Lemmy reminds me of how Reddit felt between 2008 ~ 2013ish.
There seems to be a disproportionate number of longtime Reddit users defecting to Lemmy and I think that the self-selecting nature of Lemmites(?) is why there are such great vibes here.
Reddit is dead. Long live Lemmy!
It's nice people, the culture of Lemmy, and the amount of users
On reddit, if you wanted to chime in on a thread that was popular enough to reach your feed, it was probably too late to make a comment that would stand out, since the people who comment on it early would get the upvotes, reach the top, and drown out your input.
Here at least, the comment sections, number of users, and the way "Hot" is sorted allows people to feel like their input matters, rather than just trying to make short quips to farm the most karma. The lack of a karma system or comment/post awards also helps this, as people aren't as incentivized to just farm upvotes.
And of course, the bulk of Lemmy's platform as of right now is built on people who left Reddit because they cared about their communities, and had strong opinions on how an online forum ought to be fairly run, leaving the more apathetic users behind. Naturally, this means most of Lemmy's users care about their community, and share that common bond.
For me it's the freedom. No big corp is over my shoulder, No one person is in control. Even if the admin's for lemmy.world go crazy or something I can just make another account on another instance. I'm actually planning on running my own instance but I'm broke so it'll probably for just my friends and I, running on some office PC I find for cheap on Ebay
Thank god I found Lemmy, because if I didn’t it probably would have only been a matter of hours before I caved and reinstalled Reddit on my phone at work.
It's good because it's lessening the "hardship" of leaving reddit. Imagine leaving reddit and there's literally no alternatives out there that match that format. Imagine if it was just Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok, Youtube, and whatever else, but nothing else that matched that sort of long stream of post headlines that Reddit has done so well. The others kind of do a similarish thing (post streams), BUT me personally I like this condensed headline format, I don't want to see a ginormous posts that takes up half the page and I have to waste valuable microseconds scrolling past it to get to the next giant post.
I'm an info addict and I want to see twenty posts on a page, briefly scan through them and keep scrolling down, just droves and droves of headlines that I can react to and completely skip past reading the article and go straight into commenting on it like I'm an expert on this thing I didn't even know about 5 minutes ago.
I’m hoping it takes off. It’s a confusing start but seems alright once you have a grasp.
It helps that it's a fairly small community, which gives it an old school internet forum vibe. Hopefully it retains this vibe as the site continues to grow.
I sort of had an intuition that the people I want to talk to, the people I enjoyed talking to over there, would also be the ones who made the choice to come here.
Newbie here after RIF went to Valhalla, I really hope this place grows and develops and people stay. I am enjoying it so far it reminds me of ol' forum days and Reddit of old, maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I just want this to work well and hope it's not just a short lived influx!
For some reason, this place is just giving me late 2000s to early 2010s vibes.
Haven't really seen nearly as much toxic content on Lemmy as of yet. Might actually start interacting instead of rolling my eyes at every other comment lmao