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[–] CodexArcanum 62 points 1 year ago

The evolutionary origins of trombone

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

obviously this makes no sense evolutionarily, they must have been created by mermaids to make various instruments out of their shells.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assorted butt plug shapes.

[–] SandLight 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 14 points 1 year ago

Kink shaming is uncalled for in this situation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

You did see the username to whom you're responding, yes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, I suppose they might seem bigger to a predator, and harder to swallow for something that swallows prey whole?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see anything impractical about the one that's just an ordinary ammonite but with spikes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Mariella one also looks fairly normal, looks like a number of aquatic snail species

[–] SpaceNoodle 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah but it was novel at the time

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

These are some weird regional Omanytes.

[–] Slowy 13 points 1 year ago

Niche, silly, beautiful

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Sanctus 12 points 1 year ago

Just some hard shell noodle bois dooting the best they can

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 7 points 1 year ago

Mighty Heteromorphic Mollusk Rangers

[–] moistclump 7 points 1 year ago

I read hetrimorph ammonite time in “peanut butter jelly time” tune.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's crazy to think about how long it took to get more than one-cell life!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has anyone got some conclusive theories on the functional morphology of this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This was the "fuck around" era of evolution and being wacky was cool

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my history of life class I was tought it was to do with controlling buoyancy, although all the variation seems odd for that.

Maybe a combination of controlling buoyancy with species identification?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be plausible. I’ll have to look it up at one point, maybe there’s some research on this. I think it may be hard to guess why because we don’t have many swimming animals with shells. I don’t know if snails may offer some answers but they are maybe to different in lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably too different, as snails are benthic, while ammonites where probably nektonic.

Iirc the shells being longer is something about allowing gases in the shell to compress or expand as needed to control bouyancy. I would imagine there is a sac of gas, and the ammonites would siphon water in or out as needed to compress or decompress the gas.

Edit: just looked it up on Wikipedia, it appears the heteromorph ammonites are thought to have maybe been planktonic or benthic.

Definitions for non-nerds:

Benthic means living on or near the sea floor.

Nektonic means free swimming

Planktonic means going with the current as plankton. I should note plankton aren't all tiny, some are visibile to the naked eye. All it means is unable to propel themselves against current.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is certainly a challenge to keep a large animal with such a thick shell afloat. However that would just explain the immense size of the shells. Their shape is just extremely weird and sometimes I’d even expect it to be detrimental to their ability to navigate the open water. If they were planktonic it would not be as problematic I guess but I still don’t see the functional advantage. Maybe mimicry? But of what?

They look a lot like the calcareous shells of some polychaetes but they have a sedentary lifestyle attached to rock or other substrates which is not what we’d expect for Ammonites.

Maybe it’s a puzzle that will remain unsolved.