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[–] fireweed 73 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Then the years go on, the kid becomes an adult and begins cooking for themselves. The first meal they make for someone else they realize (1) how difficult it is to estimate when a meal will be done (2) how much work goes into cooking, especially for a whole family and (3) how hurtful and disruptive it is when the person you're cooking for decides they'd rather eat your food when it's cold and gross and everyone else has already finished eating and are trying to clean up. And that's not even incorporating the social elements of family dinner time the kid is eschewing. I didn't understand as a kid why my parents were so adamant about family dinner, but as an adult it's something I'm really glad they enforced.

[–] BambiDiego 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're right, but also remember to say it out loud.

Communication is so underrated but I guarantee most people would listen and be willing to accommodate you more if you just bring it up casually, instead of waiting until they discover it for themselves or until you blow up from being frustrated and underappreciated

[–] Alexstarfire 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've cooked for others at home before. I do not care what they do after the meal is ready.

[–] Soleos 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah well there's cooking as in purely functional preparation of nutrients, and then there's cooking as in a process of caring for others by creating a worthwhile experience of food that is needed, engaging, and delicious. The downside is this experience usually has a time limit dependent on time and others' availability (eating hot food together). It's sad for such effort to go to waste. The alternative extreme to this kind of nurturing is abandoning the idea that family time over meals is worthwhile and just shitting out nutrient bricks so the children don't starve. I don't think anyone really wins in the long run with that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Exactly! When you're a teenager it's hard to appreciate these things. I know I definitely took it for granted but I at least respected my family enough to not start an online game around dinner time.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bro, Fortnite will still be there when you’re done eating with your family.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And you know when your family has dinner time, no?

[–] jennwiththesea 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am not the bro you're speaking to, but I am a parent. Dinner is sometimes at 5:15 and other days it's at 6:45. It just depends on everyone's schedules. So don't assume that a random bro on the internet knows when dinner is.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have yet to visit a household with strict dinner times, I know they probably exist but usually it's a very flexible time

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We had one when I was a kid, but we don't hold to one in my family now. In fact, our daughter is really picky and won't eat the same things we do. We generally eat when she feels like eating because it's just easier. Of course, these days she's a teenager and she always feels like eating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your daughter actually gets a choice in what she wants to eat?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If she doesn't like what you make her, she simply won't eat it. She will just live without dinner. So we have to make her what she wants. This has been true since she was a baby. We've finally at least gotten to the point that she's willing to try new things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh well, as long as they are at least willing to try new things that's fine.

My parents just simply forbid me from leaving the table till I finished my food when I was little haha and no matter how headstrong you are, just sitting there gets old real fast.

Might not be the best way to go about it, but they never had any issues with getting me to eat things afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

When I was little, I had times where I just straight up slept at the dinner table because I refused to eat. My parents learned quickly that if they didn't want me to starve to death, they were gonna need to make foods I actually liked.
Once they'd been doing that for a while, I got a lot more open to trying new foods, even ones I didn't like before, because now everyone else was eating and enjoying food I didn't have and I wanted to be a part of that. Didn't make me automatically like everything, but it did open me up to a lot of healthier options.

[–] Cenzorrll 3 points 10 months ago

With my step kid I've basically just told him I'm not making anything else for him if he doesn't like what I made. If he won't eat it, he can have fresh vegetables and/or last night's leftovers instead. I give him some options before I start cooking, so he knows and has some say in what dinner is.

The exception is if I make something that's objectively gross. I've had a few frozen package dinners that looked good but were outright nasty and made sandwiches instead.

[–] sock 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you also broke the rules as a kid calm down.

and if you didn't you're a bitch so kind of a double edge sword for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I broke the rules, but never when it came to eating.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 45 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The people who grew up having to explain games that don't pause are old and have kids now.

It's just a pity he's too young for Disco Elysium. Oh well, at least he's enjoying Chrono Trigger.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

At least offline games can be saved anytime nowadays. I remember so many screaming matches with my parents having to explain that I need to find a save point first.

[–] CADmonkey 11 points 10 months ago

I looooove that I can save my game in BG3 at basically any time, and I love even more that I can walk away from the game for a minute, even mid-combat, to do something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The first handheld that shipped with the ability to suspend was a gamechanger for me as a kid

[–] SeekPie 3 points 10 months ago

Me when My Summer Car:

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mom: I told you 20 minutes a go to get down here. You: It's the same match. Mom: The matches have a time limit of 5 minutes.

[–] ericbomb 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh I'm actually playing age of empires 2 black forest tonight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Starts a forest nothing game

[–] ericbomb 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On turbo?...

On turbo right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Forest Nothing...

Slow...

Huns/Turks only (no onager)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, still your fault for starting that mess before dinner

[–] ericbomb 4 points 10 months ago

How was i supposed to know 1v1 vikings only on HD patch was gonna take so long???

[–] Caradoc879 8 points 10 months ago

Lol yep gamer parents know all the tricks. We came up with them.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol, and the kid starts a new match anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Games need a 'this is the last match for me' switch. The number of times I've reflexively requeued (or been auto requeued) when I meant to do something else is a large number.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, ditto..."Ok, just one more match..."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

How old is your mom, 80? People in their 40s and 50s played Atari and are pretty familiar with video games. This joke is dying quickly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Although that is true, they might not be as familiar with the concept of online multiplayer games, which rose in popularity much later. The odds of someone's parents having played, for example, Quake or Unreal Tournament in their childhoods are considerably lower.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Quake was released in 1996, 27 years ago. College students likely played Quake at the time.

"Mom" likely knows her shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Am a 41 year old dad who grew up with Quake, Doom, and Unreal Tournament, and now have a 12 year old son who is also growing up on games. The boomers who didn't have a clue are dying. Those were OUR parents who didn't know diddly squat about gaming, not this generation's parents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think you are right. There are many people in their 40s who grew up with online games, my father included :). Although I am still fairly certain that online games weren't as prevalent back then as they are today, thus many parents don't quite grasp the concept.

EDIT: I would like to add that even people who didn't play online games, such as my mother, still played on the atari, for example, and know the concept of "unpauseable" games. So I think that it mostly comes down to demographic. In my group of school friends (a few years ago) some parents were in the know and others weren't.

[–] meekah 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, in your bubble maybe. I can assure you the majority of people your age barely grasp the concept of the internet, let alone online gaming. Same goes for people in their 20s. It's like cars for many people. Sure, they know very well how to use them, but have no idea about what other people do with their cars, like racing or off-roading. They might have some rough idea of what it probably is, but no clue about all the intricacies.

Nowadays most people use the internet, but that doesn't mean they understand the pain when someone leaves your online match. Not everybody is playing online games, let alone online games where a leaving teammate actually matters.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 10 months ago

I'm 46. Quake came out when I was 19. Of course I know about Quake.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 10 months ago

If you ever played an Atari 2600, you understand the concept of an unpauseable game you play at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

My wife of a year younger than me is the mom in the meme. I'm 35. The joke is still alive!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I'm 40 and grew up gaming. Your mom is probably younger and also grew up around games. Online gaming has been a thing since the 90's. Your parents aren't like my parents were. They won't call your Playstation a Nintendo.

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