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[–] Nobody 127 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I'm still not seeing why Israel is being treated as a priority over or at least equal to Ukraine. Ukraine is up against a legitimately strong adversary using human wave tactics. Israel is dropping bombs seemingly indiscriminately on mostly civilians. Ukraine is fighting for its existence. Israel is getting revenge on its much, much weaker neighbor.

If Iran and its proxies enter the war, that might change the calculations, but that hasn't happened yet.

[–] glimse 72 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel is also rich as fuck with a strong military. They do not need financial support.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But politicians elsewhere need israeli support (to get voted they believe)

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[–] PilferJynx 36 points 8 months ago

Agreed. Isreal doesn't need help putting the boot on helpless children.

[–] Illuminostro 17 points 8 months ago

It's a strategic foothold in the region for the US. And "Jeebus."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

And the more support Israel gets to kill those civilians the more likely sympathetic regional neighbours would be inclined to join. And rightly so. It's genocide.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Republicans like Israel and don't (all) like Ukraine

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 8 months ago (5 children)

How about: No arms deals with any entity that indiscriminately murders innocent people, women, and children?

[–] Seasm0ke 78 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Nice no more police funding

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Shit no deals with Boeing, Northrup Grumman, etc.

Oh well, I'm certain they won't bribe Congress to force their deals through..... /s

[–] graymess 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

What? Think about the BlackRock's and Vanguard's!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So practically every major power in the world?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago

Fuck Israel. We shouldn't be supporting them at all.

[–] aluminium 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And other lies we tell ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Example: we don't vote for the president or the people who actually elect him. Yet, we are bombarded with ads about which to pick! Why?

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[–] Filthmontane 31 points 8 months ago

Well that's not suspicious at all.

[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Which shows you America Is ran by foreign interests.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I get why - congress is increasingly useless - but there's obvious accountability problems there.

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[–] Synthead 22 points 8 months ago

This is taxation without representation

[–] krzschlss 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I don't like this trend! War movies in 10-20 years will be boring. No Rambos, no Schwarzeneggers, no Spielberg and Tom Hanks emotional patriotism! No funny casual racism, no casual homophobia, no casual misoginy... Did Mark Hamil play a terrorist in Star Trek after all? The End of an Era. We're gonna have to watch films about how a bribed White House politicant struggles to keep up with weapon manufacture demands while managing to convince his wife not to divorce him because she feels neglected since he's never at home... directed by Clint Eastwood.

That's boring. I'm out!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I can’t believe how many shitlibs there are in here, using this opportunity to guilt people with an actual conscience into voting for this piece of shit as if he has some sort of moral high ground.

What is the lesser evil when both the DNC and the GOP work directly for the exact same military industrial complex?

The real villain here is the system that makes any party outside of the two party system completely irrelevant: first-past-the-post.

We have two Republican parties. One of them just so happens to pretend better at being inclusive..but they secretly also wish that the poor could be burned to fuel their mega-yachts.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The one that isn't taking away trans rights, making abortion illegal, and saying the last election was stolen, seems like the lesser evil actually. I can agree that I think our parties would be slightly better if first past the post was changed to allow for multiple parties, but i think it's ridiculous to say both parties are currently the same. Edit: As I responded to thecrotch, I disagree with the assertion that the Dem party is evil. Flawed? sure, our 2 party system will only allow for flawed parties, but to say their evil is downright showing ignorance of US politics or disinformation given the examples that I gave.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not to people overseas. There’s no difference between being indiscriminately murdered by a Republican or a Democrat to the people dying.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

They don't have to be the same to both suck. The lesser evil is, by definition, evil.

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[–] Illuminostro 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No, we have Eisenhower Republicans, and Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I'll grant you that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is nonsense. MAGA is a fascist movement. Don't let both being neo-liberal blind you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

To me, it sounds a whole lot like both Biden AND Trump can be considered fascists….especially with this idea of secret military aid to Israel that I’m reacting to here.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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