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Lubbock County, Texas, joins a group of other rural Texas counties that have voted to ban women from using their roads to seek abortions.

This comes after six cities and counties in Texas have passed abortion-related bans, out of nine that have considered them. However, this ordinance makes Lubbock the biggest jurisdiction yet to pass restrictions on abortion-related transportation.

During Monday's meeting, the Lubbock County Commissioners Court passed an ordinance banning abortion, abortion-inducing drugs and travel for abortion in the unincorporated areas of Lubbock County, declaring Lubbock County a "Sanctuary County for the Unborn."

The ordinance is part of a continued strategy by conservative activists to further restrict abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade as the ordinances are meant to bolster Texas' existing abortion ban, which allows private citizens to sue anyone who provides or "aids or abets" an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy.

The ordinance, which was introduced to the court last Wednesday, was passed by a vote of 3-0 with commissioners Terence Kovar, Jason Corley and Jordan Rackler, all Republicans, voting to pass the legislation while County Judge Curtis Parrish, Republican, and Commissioner Gilbert Flores, Democrat, abstained from the vote.

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[–] Coffeemonkepants 281 points 8 months ago (7 children)

This is incredibly fucked up. Handmaid's tale was a documentary.

[–] worldwidewave 147 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Get ready for highway checkpoints for pregnant women, coming to a red state near you.

[–] partial_accumen 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I noticed your had a license plate light out, Ma'am. Please get out of the car and pee on this test strip."

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[–] Astrealix 60 points 8 months ago

Atwood specifically called it speculative fiction, because everything written in there had happened already in some other form.

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 8 months ago (29 children)

How tf would they even enforce this?

“Are you traveling to get an abortion?” “No, I’m going to visit family”

How would they prove otherwise? Is there something I’m missing?

[–] [email protected] 161 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The correct answer is “I don’t want to talk about my day.”

[–] AbidanYre 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Go f*ck yourself" is also an acceptable answer.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Good luck and godspeed using that approach with a rural county sheriff's office in Texas. No, they cannot enforce this, and you should probably just politely deflect the question and gtfo

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

" Am I being detained or am I free to go?" If detained "then you shut the fuck up!"

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're missing the right to privacy in your phone. Make sure you didn't put the clinic into Google maps or make a call to them ahead of time. Governmental AI is on the way and it will be steered by the same people making these rules.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Just keep a strong password on your phone, and disable biometrics if you're travelling for abortion.

They can't compel the password out of you, but they can compel a finger print, or pointing it at your face unlock.

[–] quantumriff 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You should look up geofence warrants, that are now very, very common.

They can subpoena google or apple for anyone traveling through their jurisdiction to specific areas.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It basically gives them an excuse to detain any woman they want, which is the purpose.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

LEAs have been shown to actively track women who use search engines or messaging services to seek information about abortion services. There's a non-zero chance that women who they suspect, and their friends and family, are tagged in their system when they search the plates of someone passing by.

It's not about lying to cops, particularly if they can already prove you were seeking those services in the first place. At that point they'll arrest you with probable cause.

They already use that kind of system with drug dealers. If they suspect you sell drugs, they will tag your name and plate and find a reason to pull you over if they spot you. Why would they hesitate to track women like that?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago

Easy, women shouldn't be allowed to use highways period. Then they won't be able to drive to abortions.

Fuck it, women shouldn't be allowed to drive. Long live the United States of Saudi Arabia!

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[–] chiliedogg 122 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Everything else aside, that's about as clear a violation of the Commerce Clause as you can get.

The inability of states to regulate interstate commerce was settled by the courts in 1824.

The same laws that allows firearms to be shipped through states where they're illegal protects abortion-seekers on Texas roads

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (14 children)

was settled by the courts in 1824.

Nothing is "settled" with the current Supreme Court.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why does Texas hate freedom so much?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (26 children)

Texans are some of the most delusional people on the planet.

For some reason, even the democrats there think it's better than states like Florida. It isn't.

The only state that is objectively worse than Texas is Louisiana, and that's saying something.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Doesn't this run afoul of the commerce clause?

A random ass County can't ban travel on any roads or highway for any reason, right? That's strictly the job of congress.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Also I'd like to add:

How about this worthless board look into why there is so much crime in the county before Talibaning travel for women?

You have a 1 in 92 chance of being a victim of violent crime in Lubbock County compared to a 1 in 220 chance in the rest of Texas

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Maybe women should just GTFO of Texas. Anything vag related and doctors won't want to do anything incase you're pregnant.

[–] dual_sport_dork 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think getting the fuck out of Texas is exactly what this legislation is attempting to prevent. If they get away with this, I'd doubt they'll stop there, either. Never mind abortion, this will set the precedent that they can legally "prevent" you from using public road infrastructure for any particular purpose they feel like.

It doesn't take a legal expert to see why the line of reasoning they're using to justify this is horseshit, nor to grasp just how dangerous this type of thing is.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 89 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Next up they will advise women to carry a note from thier husband or father detailing where they are going so they can avoid suspicion. The cops will pull them over and ask for thier papers.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (18 children)

Cool... driving whilst pregnant is the latest thing to fear US police over then. Wait until the first pregnant woman is shot as part of a routine traffic stop checking for abortion plans.

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[–] arin 72 points 8 months ago (5 children)

"Texas wants to imprison women." FTFY

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[–] Zippit 60 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I'm sorry but this makes Texas less than a third world country. This is just backwards and medieval.

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[–] Red_October 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Party of Small Government, Ladies and Gentlemen. The most grotesque joke since The Aristocrats.

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[–] andrewta 58 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This won't be directly enforced. It will be used to add more punishment to those caught trying to get an abortion.

[–] TechyDad 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not just those getting an abortion, but anyone helping them. It's designed to isolate pregnant women so that they have no one to turn to if they need help.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (4 children)

this is the dumbest antifreedom thing I've seen in months. just how can anyone think this is a good idea.

I bet the cookers who dreamt up this scheme were against covid lockdowns aswell

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (10 children)

How the fuck do you even enforce this?

[–] snf 47 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The ordinance is enforceable through the private enforcement mechanism which has proven its success in both the Lubbock City Ordinance and the Texas Heartbeat Act. This is how the ordinance is enforced,

So: snitching.

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[–] ghostdoggtv 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Texas is where freedom goes to die

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[–] Gazumi 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Texan Taliban impose driving ban

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[–] Bdtrngl 50 points 8 months ago (5 children)

If Lubbock county is a "sanctuary for the unborn" then they'll be glad to help pregnant women and then adopt any unwanted children, right? Right?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (12 children)

This sounds incredibly illegal? Where the fuck is the law?

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[–] dipshit 46 points 8 months ago

Conservatives are garbage.

[–] pottedmeat7910 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also Texas: "Why are we having so much trouble recruiting OB-gyns? Why do we have to close so many rural obstetrics departments?"

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[–] paddirn 46 points 8 months ago (4 children)

We should probably also have them start wearing masks and robes over their faces/bodies too, to prevent them from having unwanted pregnancies. Actually, just don't even give driver's licenses to women in the first place, since they should always be getting escorted by their fathers or husbands in the first place, they really shouldn't even be allowed to drive. And if we wanted to reduce unemployment, we could just require all these women in the workplace to go back to being stay-at-home moms, like God intended, freeing up all those jobs for hard-working American men to work at. Send me money if you agree.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago

This shouldn't be a problem based on how they think abortions work...the woman didn't go out FOR an abortion, she was out shopping and decided to get one, like picking up a snack on your way out of the market!

Seriously it's deranged. If they behaved generally like they care about the 'children' and the women, I could accept they're at least acting in good faith according to their dumbass beliefs, but they don't seem to care except for outlawing and restricting women's activities, so it's clear that those who say the point is just to subjugate women are right.

[–] Dkarma 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everyone needs to start suing conservatives in Texas under this law. Make these conservatives fight their own defenses and raise defense funds. I don't get why lawsuits didn't fly against prominent GOP voters and members day 1. Make their lives hell with lawsuits.

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[–] moneyinphx 40 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Does this include highways that receive federal funding? That’s a good way to get this repealed. Threaten to pull funding.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And then they scream land of the free

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