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[–] 314r8 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who in the global south will help the Palestinians? Crickets? I hear crickets

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Global South is all about criticizing but not acting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeeeeup let's she the BRIC countries send a couple air craft carriers to the Mediterranean and stop the war.

Oh, you mean economicaly? You mean start sanctions and lose all their trading partners?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Exactly. They seem to mean that anyone who isn't willing to go to war against America and co is not worth listening to.

But there are other consequences of large swathes of the world having a negative opinion on this, and the article makes some good points.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

From what I hear, the aircraft carriers are mostly a threat to keep any additional actors from throwing their hat in the ring while Israel is distracted.

[–] cabron_offsets 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Russia and China have refused to condemn Hamas. They have instead criticized Israeli treatment of Palestinians, especially its decision to cut off water and electricity to Gaza and the civilian death toll there.

lol okay

[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 8 months ago

The West is sucking so much that it makes Russia and China make good points. Does Israel deserve criticism for it's actions? Obviously yes. Collective punishment is a war crime and cutting off water to civilians is fucking appalling even if it wasn't. And that's just the start of the list.

Did the US condemn them? Not really. Something something right to defend itself. Did Russia? Yep.

Obviously this isn't enough for Russia to launder it's appearance in most people's eyes but they are still right to condemn Israel and some people will shift their view on Russia as a result. And what benefit is Israel to America, exactly? Biden making himself look like an accessory to war crimes because America is too deep in to admit it shouldn't be supporting an ethnostate that's been maintaining an open air prison for 16 years or however god damn long.

This situation is a failure of the global community, but especially America.

Obligatory list:

Fuck Russia

Fuck China

Fuck Israel

Fuck Hamas

And fuck you, the reader, just in case you haven't sufficiently condemned Hamas today.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Because it's a different fucking situation. Speaking as someone who is strongly anti-Israel in this situation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Increasingly, the Middle East region is emerging as a renewed front in the struggle for influence in the Global South — the collective name for the developing nations of Africa, Asia and Latin America — pitting the West against Russia and China.

“The war in the Middle East will drive a growing wedge between the West and countries like Brazil or Indonesia, key swing states of the Global South,” said Clifford Kupchan, chairman of the Eurasia Group, a New York-based risk assessment organization.

Arab leaders — including President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt, King Abdullah II of Jordan and the Saudi foreign minister, Prince Faisal bin Farhan al-Saud — all lashed out in speeches on Saturday at the Cairo peace summit at what they called double standards.

In recent years, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has sought to restore some of the Soviet Union’s lost influence in the Middle East, intervening militarily in civil wars in Syria and Libya.

During the Cold War, the United States often faced a hostile bloc of nonaligned nations, as well as the Soviet Union and its allies, and still managed to prevail, said John Herbst, a former U.S. envoy to Ukraine as well as a diplomat in Israel and the occupied territories, currently with the Atlantic Council.

The United States will take a hit in global public opinion for its support of Israel in the short term, but that will probably fade over time, he predicted, and should not dissuade Washington from continuing to make its case on Ukraine.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Link to full article on ghostarchive.

It's quite an interesting article, worth reading it instead of just pontificating about the headline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's pretty rich for an article talking about developing nations to generalize all of them in the headline as if it's some unified bloc. Tons of developing nations with intelligent leaders see no double standard here