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Hello World!

As we've all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn't want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it's time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it's been a rough ride with everything, and we'd like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

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[–] b3an 595 points 8 months ago (28 children)

This is what I like to see. Not just heels digging in, but explanations as to why, the follow-ups, the investigation of options and follow through. Thanks for the transparency. Piracy has and won’t ever go away. I used to pirate due to lack of money and resources. When I had those I went legit. When legit sources started turning into:

  • monthly subscriptions for everything
  • when legit sources suddenly delete or remove content from their systems (to avoid paying taxes?)
  • when the rates go up for everything (internet access AND streaming services)
  • now ads in your paid services unless you pay more (Amazon)
  • Plex trying to go legit and police where and how people run their private streaming, fucking over license holders who built the financial footing they could stand on in the first place. Cool.

You can’t rely on any shit from these services, except for one shit… enshittification.

I don’t want to sound negative, but as a consumer, it’s been nothing but ads rammed down our throats from everywhere we go and look. They lie, they change rates, they shrinkflate, while their pockets get bigger. Long live piracy.

[–] CosmicTurtle 159 points 8 months ago

From lemmy.world's perspective, I get it. Our current legal framework makes it damn near impossible from a financial standpoint to take a stand against corporations with pocketbooks the size of some first world countries.

But the rise in piracy is a direct consequence of these corporations' actions against their very users.

Piracy has and always will be a service problem. I don't think lemmy should be used to share torrents for example. But honest discussion about the current state of affairs and alternatives should be allowed.

The admins took a measured approach here and it's one that is refreshing given the regime that many of us came from.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago

One of the reasons I explore the high seas is that some shows I want to watch are not legally available to watch in my region at all.

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[–] ignotum 184 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yet another informative post, and a decision that takes some guts and you're willing to take on some extra work and risk in order to make the instance better

I didn't want to have to do this, but you've brought this upon yourself. You give me no choice but to... donate money to you which you so damn well deserve!

Let this be a reminder that actions have consequences!

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[–] 3minutespast 139 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think this is the mark of a decent admin team, the ability to re-evaluate a decision based on new or better data. I'm more inclined to stick with lemmy.world in the future, even through decisions I don't necessarily agree with .

[–] meejle 29 points 8 months ago

Whereas on Reddit, it'd be used to justify a slippery slope. "We've already banned X and Y, so banning Z is just an extension of that."

[–] assassin_aragorn 19 points 8 months ago

Even better, they did this because they knew it was unpopular with people and have since been trying to find a solution. That's an excellent leadership quality.

[–] karpintero 92 points 8 months ago

I'm glad you guys took a measured approach. This right here is the difference between a corporation and Lemmy. I can't imagine a for-profit reversing its decision in the interest of the community unless it affected their bottom line or stock price. Hats off to the admin team for working through all these complex issues.

[–] psychothumbs 85 points 8 months ago

Hey that's great, good job! I'm so unused to any disappointing decision being reversed, this really is an amazing site.

[–] Smokeydope 82 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Now please unremove the shroom community as next priority. Empowering open minded people with the option and knowledge to heal themselves through the use of psychadelics (and other kinds of mushrooms that can potentially help fight diseases such as cancer) that they can grow themselves without big pharma and giving them a community to share their advice+experiences is the right thing to do.

[–] drmoose 30 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Since its Lemmy world its a weird indeed. Mushrooms are not even illegal in like 1/3rd of the world countries and decriminalized/not enforced in the other 3rd. Pretty interesting wiki read actually https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_psilocybin_mushrooms

Any context why it was blocked?

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[–] MrSilkworm 81 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the very informative post. Your professional way of handling the issue, puts corporate professionals, "cough" Reddit "cough", look like the amateurs they really are

[–] BallsInTheShredder 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's what I thought while reading this. After being on reddit for so long posts like these are such a breathe of fresh air. In my time on Reddit the trend was ALWAYS 1: bad changes 2: worse change 3: nothing, it just becomes the new normal then, if anything 4: even worse changes.

Blows my mind to see a site be cognizant of their users, listen to them and actually idk, work to fix things? Bravo.

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[–] TehBamski 69 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it."

A lesson u/spez forgot.

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[–] devious 68 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As always, appreciate both the transparency and the hard work and effort to make sure you are doing what is best for the community even if it isn't always easy! β™₯️

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[–] antidote101 65 points 8 months ago (7 children)

This is my first comment ever using this platform.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Glad I can use this as my main instance again. Love the transparency of the mod team even if I don't always agree with the decisions.

[–] antik 67 points 8 months ago

We can't always please everyone. And sometimes we have to make decisions or do things we personally don't like or we would like to see differently but we have to think about both our team and our userbase.

But thank you for your trust and welcome back.

[–] AVengefulAxolotl 56 points 8 months ago (2 children)

These posts reassure me that I chose the right instance. Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good Communication is the key for everything

[–] pantlesspatrick 26 points 8 months ago

Nah man, tried this with my dog. He still humps the pizza delivery guy's leg

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago

Thank you for doing all of this including writing this post. The haters are binary thinkers who can't be bothered with pesky things like "context" and "reality"

[–] shotgun_crab 49 points 8 months ago (9 children)

To all the people saying "too late, I already switched": why bother commenting?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago

I think it's fine and healthy for the fediverse if people spread out across different servers, it distributes the hosting cost.

I don't see a problem with announcing they "moved and aren't coming back despite the reversal" on this particular thread, it appears relevant.

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[–] MaxPow3r11 48 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Nice.

I hope the shrooms community can also be unbanned.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I thank you for the work put into reversing the block.

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[–] Jackolantern 42 points 8 months ago

This is why lemmy is already better than Reddit. Thanks for being transparent and following through.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

Excellent news. Respect.

[–] EtherealMoon 38 points 8 months ago

Thank you for being willing to protect this service when necessary, and improve it when able.

[–] jacktherippah 34 points 8 months ago

Thank you for being so transparent with us.

[–] TheTimeKnife 34 points 8 months ago

Well damn, thanks for getting it done. Didn't think it would happen and I wasn't surprised you guys wanted to avoid the legal risk.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Great news!

[–] ANIMATEK 26 points 8 months ago

Thank you a lot for the hard work and also for being introspective and finding flexible solutions.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dbzer0 is my home for a reason

Best placr on lemmy <3

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[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 24 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Do what you want because a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

Yar har fiddle dee dee Being a pirate is all right with me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

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[–] Orbituary 23 points 8 months ago

This was the right move.

[–] madcaesar 21 points 8 months ago

This is amazing! You love to see it!

[–] Photographer 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

because we were already receiving takedown requests

How are you dealing with these now?

have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves

Is this just in relation to the attacks or also the content, can you share anything?

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[–] workerONE 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Finally I can talk about these John Meyer live bootlegs

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[–] ieightpi 20 points 8 months ago

You guys rock. I fucking love lemmy 🐭

[–] Zoldyck 18 points 8 months ago
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