this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2023
428 points (98.9% liked)

News

23311 readers
4143 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

An Alabama inmate would be the test subject for the “experimental” execution method of nitrogen hypoxia, his lawyers argued, as they asked judges to deny the state’s request to carry out his death sentence using the new method.

In a Friday court filing, attorneys for Kenneth Eugene Smith asked the Alabama Supreme Court to reject the state attorney general’s request to set an execution date for Smith using the proposed new execution method. Nitrogen gas is authorized as an execution method in three states but it has never been used to put an inmate to death.

Smith’s attorneys argued the state has disclosed little information about how nitrogen executions would work, releasing only a redacted copy of the proposed protocol.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should not be executing anyone. Hypoxia is well documented so he would not exactly be a test subject.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Note: if I were to commit medically induced suicide it would be by nitrogen hypoxia. By alla counts it is the best way to go.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] PyroNeurosis 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The test is not of the efficacy of hypoxia, but of the state's competency.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (23 children)

You know you live in a third world country if you have discussions about how to kill your citizens. There is no need for the death penalty but a twisted and false sense of justice.

load more comments (23 replies)
[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago

America is so fucking stuck in stone age, it's schocking at times!

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The state should never execute anyone because it implies two things that aren't true:

  1. That the system is infallible.
  2. That a person doesn't have the capacity to improve/rehabilitate.

That being said. I'll take this method over any other for sure.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] MedicPigBabySaver 38 points 1 year ago (20 children)

It's way better than an electric chair.

load more comments (20 replies)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is interesting, and I personally feel he is fighting it only because it buys him more time. In a different article (linked in this one), where they announce Alabama's plan to use nitrogen it says:

Smith, in seeking to block the state’s second attempt to execute him by lethal injection, had argued that nitrogen should be available.

So he literally asked to use nitrogen, they said "ok" and now's he's saying "how dare you try to use me as a guinea pig"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Shocking news: man on death row does not want to die.

More at 11.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A glib reply would be "What's the worst that could happen?, they'd die?" but a far worse outcome is that they remain conscious but in constant pain for an unnecessarily long time. I'm personally against execution of any form but if it's going to be done let's make sure it's humane.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

well what you describe is how Normal executions go. Doctors won't do it so it's done by prison guards with no medical training and is often so disgusting the witnesses need counseling

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support giving convicts with death sentences the right to choose the means (within reason). Nitrogen hypoxia is probably more humane than most of the methods we've tried, although I personally prefer bringing back the guillotine. If we're willing to kill a man for justice, we ought be willing to reject childish euphemisms (putting him to sleep) and make a bloody mess of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

make a bloody mess of it

Personally I've been advocating for the "shitload of explosives" method. It doesn't get much more humane than being blown to a red mist in milliseconds, and the audience would love it.

Medicalized death sentences like the lethal injection seriously creep me out. Even a murderer deserves to face death with dignity, not strapped to a table and injected with poison.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Alabama really shows itself to be one of the most savage states when it comes to their treatment of prisoners. Fucking monsters.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›