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Brand claims that the UK Government and "the media" are out to get him!

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[–] drekly 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Mate if the government would have turned against you, it'd be when you were spouting left wing nonsense ten years ago, not now that you're spouting right wing nonsense that aligns with their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's an interesting suggestion by Matthew D'Ancona in TNE that Brand's actions of recent years in embracing far-right personalities, promoting a range of online conspiracy theories and building a weird cult of personality around himself are a direct response to the #MeToo movement emerging six years ago - knowing that eventually his own actions would come to light and so he needed to build a 'digital stockade' of useful idiots who would jump to his defence when the time came.

Now THAT'S a conspiracy theory I can buy into...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The guardian is reporting that he's on youtube complaining about being censored.

The utter gall to complain about censorship while your videos reach millions and are reported on by multiple national newspapers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's gone right wing? I didn't know that. I've not listened to anything he said in... well... ever. I was vaguely aware of him shouting lefty stuff a few years back but never paid much attention

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He jumped the horseshoe. The fringes of right-wing extremism and left-wing extremism often end up having rather a lot in common - it's easy for people who define themselves against the mainstream first (and only for something second) to find themselves agreeing a lot with people who are notionally at the other end of the spectrum.

In Russell Brand's case, that meant embracing anti-vaxism, Covid denial, climate change denial, 5G conspiracies, etc. George Galloway did it by embracing Farage and trying to get selected as a candidate for the Brexit Party. Claire Fox went from a pro-IRA Revolutionary Communist Party activist and co-publisher of the Living Marxism magazine to a Brexit Party MEP. In the US, you see a lot of notionally right-wing US Republicans now starting to spout anti-capitalist narratives. At the fringes of politics, this sort of horseshoe-jumping happens all the time.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm open to your alternative explanation of the observed pattern of horseshoe-jumping: e.g. Russell Brand, George Galloway, Claire Fox, Piers Corbyn, Glenn Greenwald, Naomi Wolf, Melenchon voters backing Le Pen in the 2022 2nd round, etc - regardless of what theory explains the observed facts, there are a disturbing number of examples of it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You listed six people out of eight billion plus.

It’s a rounding error that doesn’t need a theory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I listed six politically high-profile individuals out of the set of politically high-profile individuals, which is a much smaller set than every person on the planet. If I knew the political views of every human on the planet then of course I would prefer to give you a more comprehensive picture.

I also listed the 16% of Jean-Luc Melenchon's 7.7 million 1st round voters who indicated they were backing Marine Le Pen in the 2nd round of the French presidential election last year - literally leaping direct from the far-left candidate to the far-right candidate in preference over the moderate candidate.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 points 1 year ago

I shared a source that you can get into if you’d like to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, the academics disagree so what we observe with our eyes must be wrong.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me guess, you listened to the YouTube experts about Bernie Bros becoming hard right Trumpers too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, but if they then refused to get behind the option they were being offered by the left because they didn't get everything they wanted, they indirectly benefit the right by taking away votes.

[–] breadsmasher 36 points 1 year ago

“Is this the consequences of my actions? No, its a government conspiracy!”

FAFO

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has brought it all upon himself, by his past behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No, let's be honest - his current denialism and persecution fetish, along with his current misogyny and right-sing rhetoric are also playing a part.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Brand then urged his followers to follow him on Canada-based Rumble, the only social media platform where he is still able to monetise his videos. “I need your support now more than ever and more than I ever imagined I would,” he said.

Man has like $33,000,000 and doesn't need any more money. Man should shut up sand disappear into well-deserved obscurity, but continues the grift and complains about persecution and oppression.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I’m guessing that George Soros personally ordered the torrent of rape allegations as payback for Brand blowing the lid off the Gates/Fauci 5G biolabs and the secrets of breatharianism or something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

If I had any doubts about his guilt they were eradicated as soon as he called this a deep state conspiracy. Nobody is conspiring against has-been comedians.

I hope that the police look into these allegations. Chasing his monetisation is not a punishment since he is already wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a loathsome piece of shit.

[–] 13esq 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No the rapes are alleged, Brand being a lothesome piece of shit has always been true.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He's not really suffered much personal consequence from this, and most likely won't, so of course he's continuing the grift any way he can. Fucking arsehole.

[–] Tarkcanis 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could have sworn he was already a convicted sex criminal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

He just looks like one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Damed impressive level of evil. The media moguls manage to force cooperation. From both the police and multiple people Brand had intimate relationships with. Before publishing any accusations. Because lets fac it. If these people had not been convinced to accuse him. Then it would be so obviose the media was just out to get him. Pretty hard to blame the news media for printing actual news.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Damed impressive level of evil. The media moguls manage to force cooperation. From both the police and multiple people Brand had intimate relationships with. Before publishing any accusations.

It's even better than that - they somehow managed to get Brand to implicate himself:

The BBC announced on Friday that it was investigating a claim that Brand exposed himself to a woman at the corporation’s Los Angeles office building before laughing about it on his radio show.

Probably some Manchurian Candidate level brainwashing. Or he's a nonce.