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[–] UnmeltedByRain 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Littering is more acceptable to more people these days. Oh, and also fascism.

[–] pineapplefriedrice 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think we've gotten to the point where we need to understand that people are lazy, and that voluntary initiatives aren't going to "save the planet". Environmentalists need to a) focus less on the public and more on govt policy b) consider that maybe technology to adapt to change is more realistic at this point than stopping the change and c) focus on the highest bang for buck tradeoffs, like short haul flights and animal agriculture.

[–] UnmeltedByRain 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have my own stretch of Adopt-a-Highway, and I've been thinking that fining the source of the litter could be a way to force change and spur innovation. Like every piece of Taco Bell packaging I have to pick out of the ditch costs Yum! Brands $5.

[–] pineapplefriedrice 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like the idea of fining the source, though obv it would need to be a bit more elaborate. For example, fining only non-biodegradable packaging. Ultimately though, some consumer behavior needs to change - fashion, for example, is something that people are so hooked onto that it's hard to get people to change. Meat is hard because most people run away screaming when someone says "vegan". Flights are hard because the follow up question is bound to be "where's the train"... and there is no train. All of those things are policy based. I think France has some good ideas with banning short haul flights and taxing meat, but even they have a long way to go.

[–] UnmeltedByRain 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, my scheme is riddled with holes and admittedly not well thought through.

[–] Ace_Addams 8 points 2 years ago

The price to go to Disneyland

[–] tallwookie 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplefriedrice 7 points 2 years ago

I know inflation hasn't been this bad as of late, but I remember for a decade or so the economy was ALWAYS struggling, and at least now it's red hot. If you're someone who's less affected by inflation than the average person, as I am, times are grand compared to 2010.

[–] verity_kindle 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BigPapaE 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m in my 30s and I legitimately don’t think I have ever used one

[–] verity_kindle 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just like them as a safety backup, there are many places where I live without enough cell reception to complete a short non-911 call for other help, like a tow truck service. Payphones always looked sort of friendly, you could call your dad collect.

[–] BigPapaE 2 points 2 years ago

Those are great points! At this point I'd be legitimately confused on how to use one lol

[–] rayman30 3 points 2 years ago

The way we are globally connected and feel we need to express our opinions worldwide.

[–] Crackhappy 3 points 2 years ago

Have to go back further than 20 years, but the web.

[–] skybreaker 3 points 2 years ago

Cost of a house

[–] WhoRoger 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IPhone. Can we erase it from history pls

[–] NewNewAccount 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WhoRoger 4 points 2 years ago

How it has lead to egoistical apps like Instagram, normalized bullshit systems like non-removable batteries, closed eco systems, regular spyware apps and touch screens on absolutely everything, and a shit ton of ewaste and literal slave labor.

While Apple itself, a multi-trillion company, is a cult with billions of fanatics who praise it for inventing everything good while ignoring all that bullshit.

[–] RufusFirefly 1 points 2 years ago

The Overton window