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Even with the explanation this is confusing (rule) (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 198 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The creator of these comics is a Christian, with the message of them being a Christian message/allegory.

The message here is that if you disconnect yourself from God and try to live independent from God, you lose your purpose and/or are helpless to fulfill your "true purpose" (which, to a Christian, "true purpose" = serving/following God).

That said: I'd strongly suggest that people stop posting these comics and giving this guy attention. They're meant for Christians and are not really relevant to people outside of that.

EDIT: I made a (regrettable) visit to the website to satisfy my curiosity and found the title & description:

Absolute Freedom – God (in control of all things) gives us freedom to choose what to do, but we don't get to choose the outcome.

Make of that what you will.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're also shit cartoons.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they never land, like there's a missing piece of communication to them all

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All "Christian" media is like that, their music, movies, comics, everything. There's just something missing.

[–] agnomeunknown 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's missing is that you haven't drank the Kool aid, if I had to guess. They lean entirely on you being a believer (and usually a devout one) for any of their material to land, whether it's comedy or drama or music or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also feel they think too highly of themselves, and aren't willing to laugh at themselves. A lot of humour relies on being willing to laugh at yourself, your mistakes, and your beliefs, and Christian fundies aren't willing to do that.

[–] Noodle07 1 points 1 year ago

That's the case of any fanatics

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"it's up for interpretation"

[–] ArchmageAzor 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DIVINE LINK SEVERED

YOU ARE A FLESH AUTOMATON

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

The puppeteer can make you cut your own ties at any time and leave you in a ditch 'cause you were kept a dependent weakling. The author is accidentally promoting self reliance, because that interpretation is not allowed to him or his public. Stupid comics.

[–] paraphrand 14 points 1 year ago

I guess that explains the way they watermarked it.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people shouldn't be cartoonists, or they should lean hard into absurdism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christians and being absurd do tend to go together.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 Samuel 3:14 - the bible verse that best gauges how seriously the book should be taken

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Right up there with the magic bears.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do these keep getting posted? The original artist is not a good guy.

[–] Maven 20 points 1 year ago

Mockery mostly

[–] youCanCallMeDragon 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They trying to say that you are dependent on the control of others and incapable of functioning on your own free will? Because fuck that.

[–] UnculturedSwine 2 points 1 year ago

Worse, it's an allegory for losing your faith in God. I visited the website and it's full of comics with similar messages. If you value your sanity, I suggest you stay away from the website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you never heard the term "no man is an island"?

[–] youCanCallMeDragon 7 points 1 year ago

We all need community, we don’t need to silently obey our overlord puppeteers

[–] unreachable 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its the bicycle fall meme in another theme

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With some potentially gross political implications.

[–] rockSlayer 31 points 1 year ago

That was my initial read of the comic. "Nooo, don't cut off the puppetmasters, we need them because we have no agency of our own"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, Jonathan M Lam is a right wing very Christian cartoonist.

So in that context, God gave free will, the free will enables you to cut anything that ties you down, but, even the hand you use to cut yourself free, was controlled by God to begin with.

And once completely removed from God, you "insert some Christian bullshit".

Having free will doesn't mean you should use it bullshit.

Same old bullshit.

[–] Maven 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's basically that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

given the 'atm robber comic' from the same cartoonist recently posted, i am guessing that it's somehow meant to represent becoming an atheist. you reject the strings of god and it makes you bad at dancing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Weird, I feel much more free and in control since I am responsible for my actions instead of god

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So that must mean that George Michael is an atheist because he's never going to dance again since guilty feet have got no rhythm

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like the government controlling me!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

proceeds to vote for the government controlling them

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite Deltarune boss!

[–] bi_tux 1 points 1 year ago

Must say that I liked most (not all) Undertale bosses better than the Deltarune bosses (so far)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It pulls the strings and makes them ring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The stage lights are shattered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

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[–] Hazdaz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the strings are loose and she's dancing perfectly fine and she's happy. But when she cuts those strings, which clearly weren't actually doing anything, she falls apart. So she needs that support even if it is mostly just for show.

[–] Maven 5 points 1 year ago

This is a much better metaphor than what the author explained it as.

[–] spacesweedkid27 3 points 1 year ago

I literally saw no Deltarune reference. I am disappointed.

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