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I added some known issues with websockets / spinning wheel to the known issues post

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[–] ulu_mulu 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know if it's a problem on my end but today I've got the following error several times while reloading pages:

404: FetchError: invalid json response body at http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site

I have to quit the browser and wait a few minutes before I can connect again. Never happened before.

[–] ruud 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard a few more people who had that. I'll investigate

[–] ulu_mulu 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Zak 3 points 1 year ago

I've also been getting these.

[–] BitOneZero 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t know if it’s a problem on my end

These are internal failures with lemmy-ui talking to lemmy_server and not understanding it got an error message or timeout back. Not on your end. Every busy Lemmy instance I've been testing on has these problems right now.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is outbound federation a known issue?
I've just tested inbound from sh.itjust.works and it was instantaneous. But my outbound posts that have worked take hours and none have succeeded for days.

[–] ruud 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno. Can't see any of that in Lemmy. So I'll have to test if it's our outbound or sh.it's inbound.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Understood. I'm not just trying to get content to sh.itjust.works, though. outbound from here to .ml, kbin, and fedia have all failed. I'll test kbin inbound.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

kbin is not instantaneous. It has not appeared and I assume, due to instability, is likely lost. If it comes through I will update with time.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The kbin test comment posted there 4 hours ago according to time stamps. So 5 hours from previous comment

[–] Zak 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been having outbound federation issues from lemmy.world with both kbin.social and my personal Mastodon server, social.goodanser.com. I've also had people report to me that posts and comments are not showing up for them on feddit.de.

[–] p0ppe 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve had problems with posts not showing up on sopuli.xyz, so I’m guessing outbound.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, I've got multiples not making it through.
sh.itjust.works to .world is istantaneous, posts and comments. other way is failure. but, sh.itjust.works to kbin.social also has either failed or is taking a long time. But that connection might not be as established.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 1 points 1 year ago

sh.itjust.works to lemmy.ml test was instantaneous for a comment.
so something is amiss here

[–] p0ppe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here’s one of the posts I think never made it through: https://lemmy.world/post/300681

[–] p0ppe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here’s a similar report, this time with feedit: https://lemmy.world/post/440406

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 2 points 1 year ago

Top comment by @[email protected] says the new version coming tomorrow fixed this issue. Guess we’ll see.

[–] phil299 8 points 1 year ago

Just wanted to say thanks Ruud for all the work and expense. Your diligence is obvious. Thank you.

[–] MrNemobody 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for all the work to keep the community running, Ruud!

Do you already know when Lemmy.world is gonna be running lemmy 0.18?

[–] ichimokuclown 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seconded re. Lemmy 0.18, just because the latest Jerboa release won't support Lemmy.World until it's updated. Edit: don't pull the trigger on a Jerboa update if you're a Lemmy.world fan.

[–] aeharding 6 points 1 year ago

I just wanted to say that I appreciate everything you do. Thanks for the awesome instance.

[–] wee_butterfly 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One thing I've noticed being in the UK. If I come in early morning here it's pretty dead. But if I come in late afternoon it's really chatty and busy. So I'm assuming most people who have migrated here from Reddit are in the US? Not a bug related problem, but it would be interesting to know where in the world everyone has migrated from. Not sure if that's possible though.

[–] notatoad 5 points 1 year ago

another cause of the infinite spinner: you are trying to sign in, but you haven't verified your email address yet. solution: check your email, click the verification link that was sent to you.

[–] sss 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The content of one instance can be very out of sync with another.

Example, this thread in beehaw is visible here in lemmy.world, and at the time of writing, not even a 3-day-old comment shows on lemmy.world.

I have been subscribed to this community from beehaw in lemmy.world for those 3 days, which as far as I'm aware is the only pre-requisite to sync. But if syncing takes longer than 3 days...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmm, the original thread/community seems to be at beehaw.org, right? Since both of the threads you linked to are referring to the community "[email protected]".

Beehaw is even down right now, so I am guessing that any syncing issues with other federated instances might be caused by a bottleneck at beehaw.org...?

I still don't fully understand how Lemmy works though, so I am not sure.

[–] Reliant1087 4 points 1 year ago

Beehaw is defederated with lemmy.world, so those posts won't be updated with the content from beehaw.

[–] sss 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, you are right. But it had 3 days to sync. The oldest comment is 3 days old. Here is the same thread visible from another instance, much more up to date. I hadn't noticed that beehaw.org is down though. That could explain it. I still find it odd that this instance would not have a single comment on this thread over these 3 days but... yeah I'll take that explanation for the time being, I'll check again when I notice beehaw is back up.

Do you know how the fediverse works regarding this?:

  • If I comment now on that thread on any instance, say, on lemmy.world or on the other I just linked, does it need to first sync to beehaw before it propagates to other instances or would other instances get load my comment even while beehaw is down?

If we take beehaw being currently down as a possible explanation for not seeing any of that thread here then I suppose first the comments need to reach beehaw.

I may as well ask another question, any idea how I would find that thread easily on lemmy.world? I tried pasting the full URL in lemmy.world's search but didn't find it, I had to manually go into that community in lemmy.world's instance and dig through the history to find it. In this case I assumed I would be able to find it by searching the full URL since the thread already is visible in lemmy.world, even if with no comments.

[–] sss 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

beehaw.org is back up. So lets see how long until that thread updates on this instance.

edit: Ohh.. but beehaw.org is blocking lemmy.world So what would that mean for lemmy.world? Would the normal behavior be that we can see the thread's main post but not any comment?! I thought it was the other way around though, that they don't get any content from lemmy.world but lemmy.world can still fetch theirs.

[–] T156 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

edit: Ohh.. but beehaw.org is blocking lemmy.world So what would that mean for lemmy.world? Would the normal behavior be that we can see the thread's main post but not any comment?! I thought it was the other way around though, that they don't get any content from lemmy.world but lemmy.world can still fetch theirs.

No, the block goes both ways. Lemmy.world cannot see anything on beehaw.org, and beehaw.org cannot see anything on lemmy.world.

Think of it in terms of one user blocking another on a regular social network.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We're all still learning, but check your facts before posting this type of info so you don't add to confusion about defederation.
@sss had it right. We can still see posts from beehaw, just not comments. If we comment on the posts or make our own posts, they only show up on [email protected] and won't go to beehaw. And syncing seems to be about 3 hours behind there, but that could just be the general sync issues right now, unclear.

[–] Butbutwhy 3 points 1 year ago

Would it be possible to have a setting to open posts in a new browser window, leaving the home feed in its own window?

[–] BioDriver 2 points 1 year ago

Things seem to be working with beehive now, too

[–] fubo 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~Every time~~ Occasionally when I click on a new post from the front page, it displays the content of https://lemmy.world/post/483076 with the comments of the new post, and I wonder why absolutely everyone is talking about baseball.

[–] Vupperware 1 points 1 year ago

This has been happening to me intermittently as well.

[–] solrize 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least as of this timestamp, https://lemmy.world/post/660260 says there are 4 comments but there are actually only 3 comments.

[–] BitOneZero 2 points 1 year ago

It's a known bug in Lemmy 0.17.4 and I still think in 0.18.1 where editing a post can trigger that count to increase. I'm not sure if there is an open GitHub issue on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whenever I upvote a comment or post a comment myself, it expands all of the comment chains I've previously collapsed.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

Also still seeing lots of backend timeouts and slow responses, plus I somehow got logged out again (I logged back in after a few tries).

I begin to hate Lemmy's web front end, because it uses so much asynchronous network stuff. The success path works somewhat ok when things are fast, but when things are slow (even if you don't hit an error), you can never tell whether the screen state has caught up to the server state. We need an old fashioned synchronous front end, so if the browser says that a page has finished loading, you can know that what you see on the screen is the final state of the page.

[–] Drewsteau 1 points 1 year ago

I’m having the issue of notifications not going away after I view them. I click on the reply to my comment but I can’t get the notification to disappear

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The comments view for a community shows recent comments but doesn't identify the threads that they came from, which is confusing. There is a link to the thread from one of the little icons underneath, but since the thread urls just give a numeric identifier without anything showing the thread topic, it's still difficult to see which comment came from which discussion. Example.

Also, the RSS feed for a community only gives the posts, not the recent comments. Since there is a recent-comments web view, maybe there is a simple way to connect that to RSS.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy appears to track on the server side what posts you have read, so it can show this in the UI. That is terrible for privacy since someone bad could seize the data. If reading history is tracked at all, it should be on the client only.

[–] Nommer 1 points 1 year ago

Anybody having issues with authorization? I was logged out of lemmy in my jerboa app and I had a hard time logging in with an error message saying rate_limited. It's improved slightly over the last couple of hours but browsing communities that I'm subscribed to is buggy and sometimes won't load more than a handful of posts. I also can't seem to upvote or downvote comments because the app thinks I'm not logged in, despite me being able to post in the same thread.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next to the sorting icon at the top of a community, there is a "?" badge that looks like it is supposed to explain the sorting options. It instead navigations to a 404 page on join-lemmy.org.

[–] ruud 4 points 1 year ago

This will be fixed in the next version

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

There are prev/next buttons on every page of a list of posts in a feed (subscribed, unread, etc), including the first and last page of the list. The first page should not have "prev" and the last page should not have "next". In the frequent case when there is only one page, the page should have neither.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy communities have an RSS feed but there doesn't also seem to be an RSS feed for individual threads, to show new comments on a thread. That would be helpful.

It would also be good if the feeds went deeper, beyond just a handful of posts. I would make them at least 10 posts deep, maybe a lot more. Perhaps they could be paginated, making it possible to go all the way back to the beginning of the community.

I almost feel like asking for an Atom feed to accompany RSS, so it could be called Lemmy Atom, but meh ;).

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

As of right now (post-18.1 upgrade), when I visit https://lemmy.world/post/848519 it says I have to log in to comment, and the upper right of the screen has a login link. But I'm already logged in, the screen indicates that when I click the login link, and other pages also show that I'm logged in. Quite a few page refreshes don't change this. I'm about to clear cache and cookies and log in again, but this is weird.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

If you write a post, preview it, and want to edit it some more before posting, you do so by clicking "preview" again. That is confusing and took some figuring out. The "preview" label on the button should change to "continue editing" or something like that, while in the preview state.

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