I'll assume there is a long list of influential Americans that got paid.
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maybe a short list of people running social media platforms, getting paid under the table
I hope you aren't implying that the company that released this report linking spam to the Chinese government is actually taking bribes from the Chinese government, because that would just be silly lol.
If you mean other platforms like Reddit and Twitter... maybe, but I still think it's unlikely. I'm sure it's a lot cheaper to let accounts be blocked and create new spam accounts than to actually pay off platforms to let those spam accounts exist, especially because moderation on social media platforms has always been a very difficult thing to get right.
i'll bet a suitcase full of Chinese cash could find someone to help them, wherever they needed it, in any of those operations
Uh, sure, maybe, but my point is why give away suitcases full of cash when you don't need to
i don't know.. it's an intelligence operation, they use all vectors that are available and functioning.. it's not a business.. i guess we'll see how comprehensive it's been..
So apparently they really suck at it? That's kind of hilarious
The trolls have demonstrated a weak command of idiomatic English with articles that, while prolific, often misspell key names or use English and Mandarin interchangeably. Other posts — like a critique of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s August 2022 trip to Taiwan — appear long after the events they purported to preview.
At other times, the spammers attempted to push niche and esoteric Chinese propaganda talking points onto unreceptive audiences by piggybacking on clickable search engine optimized headlines. In one case cited by Meta researchers, Spamouflage Dragon trolls filled the replies of social media forum questions like “How do I lose belly fat through weight lifting?” with propaganda articles about “Chinese Police Strengthening International Law Enforcement Cooperation.”
They don't mention what the propagandists push about COVID. The usual line from weirdo propagandists is that COVID is a secret bioweapon and was released from the Wuhan labs intentionally. I assume China wouldn't sign on to that one? Do they just push the scientific consensus, which is that the origin is unknown but is probably natural, and possibly an unintentional lab leak? Or an exaggeration thereof which completely discounts the lab leak theory but still asserts what is most probable -- it's from animals? That's pretty weak sauce for propaganda. Maybe they push some nuance about COVID that only the Chinese government cares about. Or maybe they go buck wild and say it was developed by NATO biolabs in Ukraine.
So in the report by Meta, they go into a little more detail. One post in particular claimed that Fort Detrick is the origin of Covid. Fort Detrick is located in Maryland, and a quick google shows that it hasn't worked on biological weapons since the late 60s.
So basically they tried to do what Russia did but worse
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Everyone interferes with our election cause we've let our citizens become dumb as fucking rocks.
We didn't just let it happen, we made it happen.
I don't know why the expectation exists that they should want to build an audience. You don't need to build an audience to cause chaos. You just need the chaos message to generate enough noise to confuse people.
Or this is just the smoke screen actions and there are much more extensive actions that might actually be working on the rest of the platforms.
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Not to mention all the Fentanyl precursors China has been pumping into other countries.
Reverse opium wars
What ever happened to those Hong Kong protests? I’m assuming they finally got shut down thanks to covid?
Unfortunately they failed to stop the CCP’s National Security Law and the electoral reform which now ensures only “patriots” can run for office (see wiki synopsis). Hong Kong, in a political sense, is now only nominally separate from China. Such a heart-breaking loss.
The CCP continued to escalate their response until continuing the protest was unfeasible.
This legislation is generally seen as the final nail in the coffin: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_national_security_law
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Meta on Tuesday outed the authors of a four-year long influence campaign dubbed “Spamouflage Dragon,” which first appeared in 2019 to spread propaganda about Hong Kong’s pro-democracy protests.
Federal prosecutors accused dozens of Chinese Ministry of Public Security officials of being behind a covert social media propaganda campaign in a criminal complaint filed in April.
In one video posted by the trolls, narrators urged viewers “not to vote for someone” and showed footage of January 6 rioters while claiming that “The solution is to root out this ineffective and incapacitated system.”
At other times, the spammers attempted to push niche and esoteric Chinese propaganda talking points onto unreceptive audiences by piggybacking on clickable search engine optimized headlines.
In one case cited by Meta researchers, Spamouflage Dragon trolls filled the replies of social media forum questions like “How do I lose belly fat through weight lifting?” with propaganda articles about “Chinese Police Strengthening International Law Enforcement Cooperation.”
The campaign’s lack of any audience development despite years of operation, dozens of personnel behind it, and thousands of pieces of content leads some to wonder why China even bothers with the trolling effort.
The original article contains 740 words, the summary contains 190 words. Saved 74%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Oh no really...
Anyway
Since the article didn't link the report, I have it attached here: https://transparency.fb.com/integrity-reports-q2-2023/
As we always should do with these reports, let's question the source:
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The lead author is Ben Nimmo, a senior fellow for Atlantic Council. According to testimony, "the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, and [others] all have inadequately-disclosed ties to the Department of Defense, the C.I.A., and other intelligence agencies. They work with multiple U.S. government agencies to institutionalize censorship research and advocacy within dozens of other universities and think tanks." According to this internal CIA memo (accessible via FOIA), Atlantic Council fellows are almost all controlled by various US intelligence agencies and report to the director of the CIA.
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Ben Nimmo's track record of identifying state-sponsored misinformation is spotty at best. A few years ago, the DFR wrote a hit piece that implicated Ian Shilling (a British retiree) as a Russian bot disinformation account. This led to the takedown of his account by Twitter... Which was rolled back soon after after he went to the news... He was then suspended under X, so go him I guess.
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Looking at the authors, we have Ben Nimmo (discussed above), Mike Torrey (previous NSA and CIA analyst), Margarita Franklin (has conspicuous 3 year gap between her masters graduation and her first job, quickly rising to the role of Director... which could be a coincidence), David Agranovich (ex-DOD, ex-National Security Council), and Margie Milam/Lindsay Hundley/Robert Claim (for all intents and purposes legitimate people focusing on IP and DNS). Given the large number of actual, non-government-affiliated cybersecurity researchers, the prevalence of ex-US intelligence on this report is rather startling.
Overall, there's a stronger claim for this report being US propaganda (as shown above) than there is for some barely-intelligible sentences that look like they were written literally by idiots being Chinese propaganda... But who knows, maybe they're both propaganda?
Overall, there’s a stronger claim for this being US propaganda
Why would the US want to cast doubt on their own voting system? Chinese interference or otherwise
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Next time buy AMD...
I'll shut the door on my way out.
I wanted to make AMD joke
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They believed the Gov. was about to expose their collusion in it, is my bet. An attempt to get ahead of the issue unlike in 2016.
They're not guilty for the things their users do. Bad actors are all over Facebook, so revealing a government was using their platform for nefarious purposes is more like, "See? We can be good guys, too!" It's positive PR to be proactive like that.
If you take them at their word, they didn't realize the efforts were connected to the CCP. Which, since CCP is somewhat competent at online harassment, is believable.
There's no guilt implied for Facebook when bad actors use the service in coordinated ways.
If my uncle can post crazy shit to Facebook, so can seemingly-random groups of people.
No shit.
There was so much of this around the "weather balloons" as well.
So, almost nothing about “election” save what’s in the excerpt? Clickbaity.
You'd think they would at least cite the report from Meta... RollingStone is back at it with their top tier journalism.
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