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Scientists strengthen concrete by 30 percent with used coffee grounds::Researchers in Australia have found a new use for old coffee grounds: concrete doping!.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem 154 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can I also strengthen my coffee by adding a little concrete mix?

[–] TropicalDingdong 36 points 1 year ago

For science, go for it!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The lime that concrete is made of is alkaline, so if you're very careful a little bit may simply neutralise the acid. Neutralised... I think it's just chalk? Don't do this though, it wouldn't take much to mess it up and do serious damage to your insides. Plus idk if it's actually just chalk. Also if you wash your hands with vinegar after a day working with cement it gets rid of the horrible dried out feeling and feels nice & creamy, because it neutralises the base.

[–] Selmafudd 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is funny because when I was a plumber after particularly dirty days I used to wash my hands with cement and I used to think that made my hands feel smooth

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense if you were working with strong acids. Bleach or baking soda might've had a similar effect.

[–] Selmafudd 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was domestic so plenty of urine from blocked drains I guess

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah, I see what you mean now by "dirty".

[–] SCB 6 points 1 year ago

Time to go write a cozy mystery where the murderer is poisoning people with tiny amounts of concrete in the coffee.

[–] Anonymousllama 2 points 1 year ago

Asking the important questions here, we just find out, for science ofcourse

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] objectionist 7 points 1 year ago

oxford, can we approve the word "bigly"? thanks

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was right there all along. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In a few years we will all be injecting blivcheche and sunlilit while sipping on our covfefe.

Who will be laugthithing then ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Despite the constant negative press

[–] BradleyUffner 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From a materials science perspective, a jump of 30% for a material that's been well known for thousands of years seems unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

Well, not really. They only mentioned compressive strength, so other important qualities and measures could be worse in unacceptable ways.

Or maybe it's great. https://www.concretecentre.com/Specification/Innovative-concrete/Charcoal-Concrete.aspx

[–] scarabic 8 points 1 year ago

Two materials that have both been known for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


At the same time, we generate about 10 billion kilograms of used coffee grounds over the same span — coffee grounds which a team of researchers from RMIT University in Australia have discovered can be used as a silica substitute in the concrete production process that, in the proper proportions, yields a significantly stronger chemical bond than sand alone.

“The disposal of organic waste poses an environmental challenge as it emits large amounts of greenhouse gases including methane and carbon dioxide, which contribute to climate change,” lead author of the study, Dr Rajeev Roychand of RMIT's School of Engineering, said in a recent release.

He notes that Australia alone produces 75 million kilograms of used coffee grounds each year, most of which ends up in landfills.

In order to make the grounds more compatible, the team experimented with pyrolyzing the materials at 350 and 500 degrees C, then substituting them in for sand in 5, 10, 15 and 20 percentages (by volume) for standard concrete mixtures.

"The concrete industry has the potential to contribute significantly to increasing the recycling of organic waste such as used coffee," added study co-author Dr Shannon Kilmartin-Lynch, a Vice-Chancellor’s Indigenous Postdoctoral Research Fellow at RMIT.

"Our research is in the early stages, but these exciting findings offer an innovative way to greatly reduce the amount of organic waste that goes to landfill,” where its decomposition would generate large amounts of methane, a greenhouse gas 21 times more potent than carbon dioxide.


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[–] billiam0202 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only use the finest Portland Arabica for my concrete needs.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago

Only opus caementicium for my buildings. I want them to last 2000 years.

[–] FiftyShadesOfLatte 30 points 1 year ago

Strange. Coffee has the opposite effect on me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not surprised it's a Melbourne university researching this.

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Knowing what little I know about Australia, shouldn't it be reinforced with either beer or squashed cane toads?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Squashed cane toad experiments are incoming

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's that? The connection eludes me

[–] AustralianSimon 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Melbourne claims to be home to the best coffee culture in Australia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Aha I see, cheers antipode!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how the researchers thought, "hmm, I wonder what will happen if I mix my used coffee grounds with this batch of cement over here."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is unironically how most discoveries are made... Silly human curiosity

[–] XeroxCool 9 points 1 year ago

As long as it's written down. Otherwise, you're just a lunatic

[–] sudo_tee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe they dropped old coffee grounds on their fresh concrete sidewalk while getting the trash out.

I always have these kinds of thoughts when reading articles like this.

On a serious note , I am pretty sure they find this stuff at the molecule level then match it to the closest item.

This is an area where AI might actually be really useful in the future. If that's not already the case.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love seeing my countrymen coming up with dumb ideas that work, very Australian.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They definitely spilled it while testing something else.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmmmm nothing like the smell of freshly roasted concrete to start your day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

the smell of old used roasted concrete!

[–] nutsack 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that must be some shitty coffee

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good luck getting most people to recycle or save their used coffee grounds

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Just pay Starbucks to collect it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have like, buckets of it. Brb making concrete.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is one of those things I'd never think to try, but am still surprised that no one else did decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone else annoyed that they use kilos for coffee, but tons for concrete, and then give percentage by volume?

[–] adchevrier 9 points 1 year ago

1 metric ton=1000kg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gee, a controllable and fairly steady source of something that naturally generates methane. Better just bury it real quick because we've got fracking to do!