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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] 302 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (26 children)

There is so much wrong with just the title of this article:

  1. What marketplace? CivitAI is free. Unstable Diffusion Discord is free. Stable Diffusion is free. All of the models and LoRAs are free to download. The only cost is a video card (even a basic one) and some time to figure this shit out.
  2. "Everyone is for sale". No, that's current fucking situation, where human trafficking runs rampant throughout the sex and porn industry. AI porn is conflict-free. You don't need to force an underaged, kidnapped teenager to perform a sex act in front of a camera to create AI porn.
  3. "For Sale". Again, where's the sale? This shit is free.

A 404 Media investigation shows that recent developments

Get the fuck outta here! This two bit blog want to call itself "a 404 Media investigation"? Maybe don't tackle subjects you have no knowledge or expertise in.

The Product

Repeat: FOR FREE! No product!

In one user’s feed, I saw eight images of the cartoon character from the children's’ show Ben 10, Gwen Tennyson, in a revealing maid’s uniform. Then, nine images of her making the “ahegao” face in front of an erect penis. Then more than a dozen images of her in bed, in pajamas, with very large breasts. Earlier the same day, that user generated dozens of innocuous images of various female celebrities in the style of red carpet or fashion magazine photos. Scrolling down further, I can see the user fixate on specific celebrities and fictional characters, Disney princesses, anime characters, and actresses, each rotated through a series of images posing them in lingerie, schoolgirl uniforms, and hardcore pornography.

Have you seen Danbooru? Or F95 Zone? This shit is out there, everywhere. Rule 34 has existed for decades. So has the literal site called "Rule 34". You remember that whole Tifa porn video that showed up in an Italian court room? Somebody had to animate that. 3D porn artists takes its donations from Patreon. Are you going to go after Patreon, too?

These dumbasses are describing things like they've been living in a rock for the past 25 years, watching cable TV with no Internet access, just NOW discovered AI porn as their first vice, and decided to write an article about it to get rid of the undeserved guilt of what they found.

What a shitty, pathetic attempt at creating some sort of moral panic.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

The danbooru aspect of the "AI" moral panic is what annoys me.

So many of my friends - many of whom are amateur artists - hate computer generated images because the copyright of the artists were violated, and they weren't even asked. And I agree that does kinda suck - but - how did that happen?

Danbooru.

The art had already been "stolen" and was available online for free. Where was their morality then? For the last decade or whatever that danbooru has been up? Danbooru is who violated the copyright, not stable diffusion or whatever.

At least computer generated imagery is different, like, the stuff it was trained on was exactly their art, while this stuff, while might look like theirs, is unique. (And often with a unique number of fingers.)

And, if "copyright" is their real concern, them surely they understand that copyright only protects against someone making a profit of their work, right? Surely they'll have looked into it and they already know that "art" made by models that used copyrighted content for training are provided from being copyrighted themselves, right? And that you can only buy/sell content made from models that are in the copyright clear, surely they know all this?

No, of course not. They don't give a shit about copyright, they just got the ickies from new tech.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Just because something is free it does not mean that there is no marketplace or product. Sozial Media is generally free, but I would still call Facebook, Tiktok or Instagram a product.

Nowadays a lot of industries start out completely free, but move into paid subscription models later.

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[–] drfuzzyness 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'm guessing that the "marketplace" and "sale" refers to sites like "Mage Space" which charge money per image generated or offer subscriptions. The article mentions that the model trainers also received a percentage of earnings off of the paid renderings using their models.

Obviously you could run these models on your own, but my guess is that the crux of the article is about monetizing the work, rather than just training your own models and sharing the checkpoints.

The article is somewhat interesting as it covers the topic from an outsider's perspective more geared towards how monetization infests open sharing, but yeah the headline is kinda clickbait.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I just wanted to say I love your comment. Your totally correct and I enjoyed the passion in your words. That's how we got to deal with shit article more often. Thx

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 10 months ago (59 children)

Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

[–] warmaster 21 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Why learn to fuck people when you can just buy The Wanker 9000™?

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[–] applejacks 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lmao that is not fulfilling

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

I'm unconvinced by this attempt to create a moral panic. IMO nothing here is shocking or offensive once I remember that people could already use their imaginations to picture celebrities naked.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

it's not like celeb porn fakes are anything new, anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (14 children)

This is not a troll: zoom in on the feet of the yellow dress image. It's hilariously bad.

Oh no, the realism, it's just too much! 🤡

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Wait, why did you zoom in on the feet?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (10 children)
[–] dmonzel 81 points 10 months ago

Obligatory "Boulderchuck is a Nazi"

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory "Pebbleyeet is a Nazi"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

How many names has stonetoss gone by at this point like what the hell

[–] gornar 20 points 10 months ago

Fuck pebblethrow

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (9 children)

She has the correct amount of toes. Whats the problem?

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[–] Tylerdurdon 58 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So there's a porn segment I've completely overlooked? Unbelievable.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This AI thing may catch on

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So I checked and nobody has put AI porn of me up for sale, yet. What the fuck, guys? Am I not desirable enough for you!?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I'm working on it

[–] Tolstoshev 14 points 10 months ago

We’re saving the best until last.

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[–] thesilverpig 46 points 10 months ago (8 children)
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[–] afraid_of_zombies 42 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Maybe we do live in the best possible world. Wow wouldn't it be great to get rid of this industry so you can consume porn while knowing that there is zero percent chance this wasn't made without their consent?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Ethics of AI porn aside, can we talk about the Pornhub search function and how shit it is?

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[–] randon31415 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'll just leave this here:

Automatic1111, depthmap script, image to image, click Left-right stereogram for vr or red-blue if you have old 3d glasses.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could turn these horrors into NFTs and call them coomer coins

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ha, the image description just says "An AI-generated woman found on CivitAI" even though that's clearly the character Power from Chainsaw Man.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Like I've been saying for years, AI doesn't need to be sentient to royally fuck society. Just needs to be good enough to mimic you and ruin your life or take your job.

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[–] dep 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.

They post the eight images that wasn't some body horror fever dream.

There's a lot of human work that goes into (and has gone into) AI art generation. It's just very obscured with just the final product.

Remember creepy people use AI. That's also why a lot of AI stuff is or seems creepy.

[–] SCB 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.

Finally there is porn for me

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