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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

[–] warmaster 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why learn to fuck people when you can just buy The Wanker 9000™?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Better wait for the 9001, you don't want to be a first adopter on this sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Instructions unclear, dick stuck in toaster.

Send help.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

"We're sorry to announce a product recall due to a low to moderate chance of your device performing an unexpected castration."

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 11 points 10 months ago

Meh. If someone wants to opt out they pretty much are going to do it. Besides would you rather deal with them? Imagine if everyone you were around didn't have a means to entertain themselves at all times. They would be engaged, they would create drama, they would tell other people what they thought of them.

Sometimes in industrial equipment we put in random alarms to be triggered so the people who are supposed to stand there have to do something vs wandering around causing trouble. Especially in union plants.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Well, to rule out the "misanthropic" part one doesn't really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who'd make them like humanity again.

About disengaged and disinterested - it's more about engagement and interest being hard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

These men used to gather on the streets and start breaking shit and kicking grannies back in the day to express their frustration. Them withdrawing to their moms basements smoking weed and jerking off to porn might not be ideal but perhaps not the worst thing either. That's why we don't see a significant uptick in crime despite the ever increasing amount of such men.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships

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[–] applejacks 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Stanwich 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don't........ yeah pretty sure that's what's going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just like video games taught me to shoot everything

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 25 points 10 months ago

Makes sense. I grew up playing videogames where I would shot stuff that was in my way. That is why in real life I use a gun to get thru traffic. I also played a game for a while where I rode on the back of a lizard and ate mushrooms to grow larger. Which is pretty much my typical weekday.

For you see I have not hit the level of mental development of most 3 year olds and can not separate our playtime from the real world. Just like the hypothetical people in your example.

Now if you excuse me I plan to make bricks vanish by arranging them in a straight line wall-to-wall in my house.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn't going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They're just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don't demand basic respect.

I don't think I'd come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I'm not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can't be circumvented like that.

[–] pixeltree 23 points 10 months ago

I'm already having the mental health crisis, would be nice to have the immersive VR porn to go with it tbh. People in this thread are mostly talking about incels but, like, there's many men with horrible social issues who are self aware. I don't have a relationship, I think I would be a terrible partner and me being single is for the best. I still am lonely sometimes, but accepting it and moving on helps a lot. It still would be nice to have something like this because I would be able to have some companionship without having to be in someone else's life.

Before anyone tells me to go to therapy, I had a few sessions and then my therapist went on long term sick leave and I don't think I have the strength to try again. It hurts less to just accept and live with my problems.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex.

You just described Japan

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Why would being sexually fulfilled make men more shitty to women? Perhaps aloof, but that is different from hateful.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'd push back on that and say that's fear mongering. The scenario you're describing MAY occur IF "they" don't witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.

"They" would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's a great idea, if these people don't, like, interact with the world writ large

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 10 months ago

I don't see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The human reproductive rate will plummet once we can have VR with sensory input.

Future Sex is a great anthology series about it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'm cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Impacting the plebeian workforce in a way that's felt even harder than today's inability to afford kids? Yeah, this is gonna be mocked and regulated out of existence for sure.

It'll look like moral reasoning, but the fewer workers exist, the more bargaining power all of them have against the rich. See the scarcity of laborers during the black plague triggering the end of feudalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, and also: The labour market is a market, meaning if there is fewer workers available, then "prices" (payment) go up.

[–] iopq 4 points 10 months ago

It will already start dropping in our lifetime without any way to reverse it. Even African fertility rates are dropping

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

More for us then boys

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[–] JuzoInui 5 points 10 months ago

Ahhh, you watched the Red Dwarf episode “Better than Life”

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