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Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis late Monday gave former President Trump and 18 co-defendants until Aug. 25 at noon to voluntarily surrender in Georgia following an indictment that unveiled multiple charges in connection to their attempts to interfere in the 2020 election.

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[–] liquefy4931 -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The DA giving Trump a grace period to turn himself in is very different from the post tile stating that Trump and 18 co-conspirators will turn themselves in.

Clickbaity bullshit

[–] Buffalox 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

First Paragraph:

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) late Monday gave former President Trump and 18 co-defendants until Aug. 25 at noon to voluntarily surrender in Georgia following an indictment that unveiled multiple charges in connection to their attempts to interfere in the 2020 election.

That's basically exactly what the headline says:

Fani Willis says Trump, 18 co-defendants to voluntarily surrender in Georgia by Aug. 25

The word "WILL" is your own and is NOT in the headline, if they don't do it voluntarily by that time, they will be arrested. So they are supposed to surrender voluntarily, if they don't, the alternative is worse.

The article headline is spot on. How you (ATM) get 14 upvotes for your wrongful criticism is weird???

[–] surewhynotlem 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Jack to jump out of airplane" is a valid title. In titles you can shorten "will" to "to" and remove words like "an".

So it's an easy mistake to make.

[–] Buffalox 5 points 1 year ago

Yes that's true.

But in this case it would be with an or else appended. You will surrender or else...

That's still a bit of an overinterpretation of what the headline actually says.

[–] JustZ 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't remember that rule from the Chicago Manual. Where'd you get it?

[–] Buffalox 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is an indictment, is it not normal that if people don't respond to that, they are arrested by the court?

[–] JustZ 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if they are in the state or deemed a fugitive of justice, in which case a warrant can be served out of state upon application to the foreign state.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Because it's not spot on. 'To' in this context means will. There's no implied 'gave' except for what you inferred.

The person who wrote the headline specifically wrote it in a way that makes it sound Trump and his co-defendants were going to voluntarily turn themselves in because, "DA tells Trump he needs to turn himself in" isn't going to get clicks.

[–] FlyingSquid 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they don't turn themselves in, there will be a warrant out for their arrest. A lot of them are stupid, but I don't think any of them are that stupid.

[–] FuglyDuck 19 points 1 year ago

And trump really doesn’t have a choice.

The secret service will surrender him to keep him from doing something stupid. (Cuz you want a dead criminal ex-president… running from lawful arrest is how you get dead criminal ex presidents)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol, what? You think Trump and everyone else cares about an 'or else' from Georgia? The dude straight up broke federal laws and bragged about it on live TV with absolutely no consequences.

They aren't going to care about a warrant in Georgia.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I think they will care when cops bust down their door and bring them out in cuffs.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not going to happen for a warrant In Georgia if it didn't happen for illegally hoarding classified documents and lying about it.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 year ago

You mean the thing the indicted people turned themselves in for and thus there were no warrants?

[–] NewNewAccount 7 points 1 year ago

We’re beginning to see the consequences now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Either the title has been changed in the past 5 minutes, or you would fail even the most basic reading comprehension test.

[–] Buffalox 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obviously he is not alone. sigh

Judging by his upvotes and your downvotes.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

I mean, you're the one who failed reading comprehension. The title is 100% intentionally misleading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Headlines are written in a different grammatical style called Headlinese. This is not clickbait.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headline#Headlinese

[–] ktr41n -1 points 1 year ago

Hell yes! Nerd fight!