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It's been a long while since i used a desktop and honestly can't remember what antivirus software i used, and even then, probably the landscape has changed over the years.

Atm i've been winging it with just Windows Defender (no custom configuration) and scanning any thing that looks suspicious on VirusTotal, but probably that would be not enough.

I'm thinking on get a couple of pirated files, so i'd like to be as secure as possible.

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[–] DAMunzy 84 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Just stick with Windows' built-in security. Only download from trusted pirate sites.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

FMHY has a pretty good Wiki for that kind of thing

[–] Username2345 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot for the tip! i found the site and looks extremely useful

[–] Username2345 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! Default settings or there is something i need to configure?

[–] ViridianNott 11 points 11 months ago

After setting up the PC, search “defender” in the toolbar and poke around a little bit. The security settings are very intuitive, so I’m sure you can modify things to your liking.

[–] deleted 4 points 11 months ago

And use VirusTotal when in doubt.

[–] ABCDE 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly the same as what I did (I think it was called Microsoft Security Essentials); things are a lot more locked-down these days, never had a virus or issue in many many years (then moved back to Apple).

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Windows defender is fine if you use a good adblocker and learn what is or isn't a safe download.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's what I had to resort to after ESET kept forcing update my cracked antivirus...

[–] Chickenstalker 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Use Common Sense™ brand antivirus. Pirated files like movies and songs are mostly ok except for executables. Those must be sourced from trusted sites. Pirating has its risks and if possible do it on another machine not used for work. Antivirus will almost always flag crackers and keygens anyways.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I thought the same time ago and ended with a bunch of RAR files infected. I still don't know what caused it.

Common sense is good, but have at least Windows Defender.

[–] catshit_dogfart 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - have a good backup solution. If there isn't anything on your computer that can't be restored, then you're not going to feel as much pressure to protect things.

Of course there's crypto miners, identity theft, botnet stuff, all sorts of things that run undetected and don't simply render your computer unusable. But if you're absolutely sure you're not losing anything, then "nuke it from orbit" becomes a more paletteable solution for virus removal. A hassle for sure, but format and start over again becomes an option that results in no loss other than the pain of having to reinstall everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To add to this, if you have the storage then a solution like Macrium Reflect (or a FOSS alternative) is a great option too. I let my PC back itself up every morning before I wake up, then if something happens to it (virus, broken driver, bad install, etc.), I can just revert it to the state it was in earlier that morning using a recovery drive.

Windows Defender has also gotten pretty good over the past couple years - features like controlled folder access will protect sensitive data from ransomware (I just use it on my backup folder). The combination of the two has been plenty for me to deal with viruses or broken programs - I haven't had to run a clean install of Windows in 4 years.

[–] FuglyDuck 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if you're doing frequent backups, make very sure to have multiple copies of backups. You get a virus into your backups, that does no good if it's your only back up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Good point - I usually keep two weeks of daily backups just in case

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Just Windows Defender is fine. I also use Malware Bytes but only since I have a lifetime license, otherwise I would just use Defender

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Just the basic Windows Defender is a surprisingly robust AV. Default configuration is fine.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

An adblocker in your browser, and using only known sites to download stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better yet - if you can, use winget to download software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's doesn't help when pirating tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Gonna quote myself from an earlier comment I made:

On Windows, just use the built-in Windows Defender. On Linux, I recommend ClamAV + ClamTK. On Android, Hypatia.

If you think you have malware, this is a pretty good guide to remove it.

I'd also strongly recommend using and configuring a content blocker like uBlock Origin in your browser, as well as using a DNS level blocker like NextDNS.

If you have a multilayered setup like this, then I think you're pretty good and it'll be not impossible, but much harder to get malware or be infected. Just use common sense as always.

[–] TenderfootGungi 7 points 11 months ago

Windows defender is the best you can get at a reasonable price. But nothing is perfect, so don’t test fate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You could pirate Eset smart security, but most antiviruses are only like 5-10% more accurate than windows defender, usually at the cost of a lot of RAM and CPU usage, so it might be a lot of hassle for little result.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would you pirate an antivirus of all things? Don’t they need kernel level privileges?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well he is already pirating. Why pay for an antivirus if you can just pirate it?

[–] Tippon 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't trust hacked software to protect you from hacked software.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Nonsense. The first thing I used to install on a newly formatted machine with a cracked version of windows, before windows defender was a thing, was a cracked version of nod32. In fact, I've never paid for an antivirus.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I've used ESET NOD32 for a long time. It costs money, but it's relatively light weight, doesn't get in the way of any of the gaming or video editing or programming work I do, and it has smacked my hand a few times clicking on risky links, blocking a few downloads (one or two, ever) and often blocking scam websites that attempt to run javascript crypto miners. Your experience may vary if you're planning on using "rescued" media or applications. I don't have have the full internet/devices subscription, just the one for personal computers that does the actual virus detection.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I use Webroot because it uses minimal system resources, and it scores highly as an antivirus. But it requires an annual subscription, so if that is a turn-off to anybody, then I'd just recommend the standard Windows Defender.

[–] miketunes_ 2 points 11 months ago

Using emsisoft on 500 systems, works great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m thinking on get a couple of pirated files, so i’d like to be as secure as possible.

These are mutually exclusive.

[–] Username2345 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It is possible to take risks while reducing the possibility of a bad outcome or mitigating the consequences of said outcome

[–] TwoGems 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So they are not mutually exclusive then

[–] Username2345 2 points 11 months ago

that's right

[–] s38b35M5 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Try sandbox. Allows you to test in a safe(r) way

[–] Username2345 2 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Linux , then runt windooze in a VM if you need it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

Aside from other recommendations, not installing the latest stuff and waiting a couple of days or longer can help, since open source projects have sometimes been infected too. Especially if it's pirated files.