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In a pivotal moment for the autonomous transportation industry, California chose to expand one of the biggest test cases for the technology.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Self driving cars are stupid. Invest in public transit instead.

[–] SpaceNoodle 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] fluxion 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Exactly, don't divert investment in public transportation because you want your own personal AI chauffeur.

[–] just_another_person 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, dont you start talking shit about Randy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you've ever taken public transit in the US, you know no one is asking for perfect lol.

[–] ShakyPerception 9 points 1 year ago

Hell, at this point we’re not even asking for good

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 9 points 1 year ago

regulators are grappling with how to control this rapidly developing industry.

Read: how to collect all these little black briefcases

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As cool as the idea of self driving cars are, I don't trust it not to become a future where script kiddies and novice hackers take control of vehicles and crash them for fun if AI gets involved.

Don't even get me started on if a country had AI self driving cars and an enemy nation hacks the AI and sends directions that cause the car to end up damaging itself without you knowing. Or just uses it to cause all the vehicles in an area to crash and not be able to deploy airbags.

[–] AdamEatsAss 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't a self driving car just a train? We should build trans and trollies instead. The tech is already there and they carry more people.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn’t a self driving car just a train?

no, it is not... here is handy image to familiarize you with some basic differences

[–] Imgonnatrythis 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could you like label them or something?

[–] remotelove 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't get a feel for the perspective. Can we please get something to show the scale of these items?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well one weighs a lot of watermelons! the other one quite a less watermelons. does this help?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you, very informative!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


California often serves as a “canary in the coal mine for the country and the developed world,” said David Zipper, Visiting Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Taubman Center for State and Local Government.

The California Public Utilities Commission approved the permits for Waymo and Cruise on Thursday despite pushback from local leaders and many residents in San Francisco, who argue that the autonomous vehicles have caused chaos around the city — from traffic jams to disrupted emergency scenes.

But critics say this data is unreliable and incomplete because the companies are not required to report a range of other incidents that affect the public — such as when a car veers into a bike or bus lane or stops short and disrupts traffic.

Philip Koopman, a Carnegie Mellon University professor who has conducted research on autonomous-vehicle safety for decades, said the self-driving car companies are under intense pressure to turn a profit and — in some cases — prove the business’s viability to shareholders.

In Los Angeles, Jarvis Murray, the county’s transportation administrator, said it is “untenable” to allow a new mobility service to expand without requiring companies to report more data and also give the cities more say over what is happening on their public roadways.

In an attempt to halt Thursday’s vote, they wrote letters and spoke at hearings to bring attention to a string of incidents in recent months: A car stopping near the scene of a mass shooting, another getting tangled in caution tape and downed wires after a major storm and another blocking a firetruck from exiting a station for several minutes.


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