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As Economic Indicators Point to Recession, Trump Moves to Hide Key Data From Public (www.commondreams.org)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

They are already doing it. Look at the illegal immigration numbers, which they released with no documentation for either Biden's ludicrously high numbers to Hitlerapig's ludicrously low numbers.

HitlerPig wouldn't release a single number for anything without sweetening it in his favor.

Everything from this administration should be assumed to be a blatant lie.

[–] Coreidan 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We’ve been in a recession. The word you’re looking for now is depression.

[–] jacksilver 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Not really, maybe a blip of something in 2021-2022, but generally the US economy as a whole has been doing alright - Real GDP. Individual people though have been getting beaten up recently, but boy is that about to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago) (1 children)

the fantasy bullshit metrics that function as a half-lottery between the ultra wealthy, those have been doing fine

but nobody can afford rent eggs are 2$ each and nobody's had a raise in years, so the way we distribute our resources WAS fine, but the lottery got weeird, so now our stuff is gonna get even more exploitative

read that back to yourself, dear.

[–] jacksilver 2 points 21 minutes ago

I don't disagree. My point was that we weren't in a recession. Things may have been bad for many people, but that was when the "economy" was doing well.

Current indications are that the "economy" is heading for a downturn. If things were already rough for people, it certainly isn't going to get better if that happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Of course

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

I guess he will hang up curtains in the market aisles, so that people don't know that they are bare at a glance.

[–] lupusblackfur 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Welp...

If you don't test for recession, there can't be any recession, right...???

🙄 🙄 🤡 🤡

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

If you didn't catch me cheating I didn’t cheat.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah, taking the Russian approach, I see

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago

Yep:

"Reduced transparency in official statistics is perhaps the most troubling aspect of disbanding FESAC," wrote Claudia Sahm, a former Federal Reserve economist, at Bloomberg on March 11. "Cutting off agency staff from external advisers creates an environment where political interference could occur much more easily—and go undetected. With political officials such as Lutnick arguing publicly that GDP should exclude government spending, it is especially important to have external, independent experts."

[–] NocturnalMorning 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do they think we won't realize it when people can't get a job, and prices are going sky high?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

you and many educate dpeople would know. its to keep thier supporters stupid and ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Controlling information has always, and will continue to work.

[–] EightBitBlood 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They do. Because they already got away with making the US fail to realize a whole bunch. About project 2025. About Trump. School shootings. Class solidarity. Etc. The US is pliable because 50% of the country just needs someone on Fox to tell them how okay it is for them to get fucked, and they'll just let it happen.

Problem is, there are clear limits on how far this can be pushed. And these idiots are just about to discover what those limits are. But they are without question idiots, and certainly stupid enough to not see how this is going to effect them.

[–] NocturnalMorning 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When people can't to feed themselves, that's when the riots will start. I'm not looking forward to it, but it looks like they're going for a complete system breakdown.

[–] Lasherz12 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not so sure. Republicans do have a persecution fetish, but that's specifically tuned not to apply to Republican leaders. Instead, the anger will be pointed at minorities. Many will take the bait because it's what they do as a bloc every single time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Instead, the anger will be pointed at minorities.

For a time. How long until "Democrats" are the ones that are taking their jobs and food.

And I don't mean the politicians.

[–] NocturnalMorning 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, a few days without food and people will storm the White house. There isnt a country in the world that will literally starve to death.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It'll turn nasty long before then, when they're told (again) that it's all the fault of those 'immigunts' who are taking their jobs and eating their food.

Once that bloodbath starts, few of those involved will think to change target, and most of those who aren't will be hunkering down, waiting for it to blow over.

[–] EightBitBlood 4 points 1 day ago

I agree with others below that the GOP is at the limit of what they can get their followers to believe in once they can't eat. Most are already suffering, and expect a quick turn around. Instead, we're about to get Great Depression 2: Trumps BS Boogaloo. The violence that follows will overwhelmingly be directed at those that control every branch of the government with an iron grip and failed to make anything better despite it. Historically, this has always been the course of events.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

But they are without question idiots

That's what I've been saying all along.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It will be the egg situation on a larger scale. They will use the same lies, or at least the same style of lying and twisting the truth.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Housing market crash when?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Probably never. Land is a very finite resource violently controlled by a smaller and smaller group of people. There's no reason for them to dump their holdings. People literally need land to survive. It's the ultimate and original capitalist cash cow. It's a fundamental pyramid scheme on human needs along with food, water, air, etc. That's a very solid foundation in a fascist police state.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when even weathier than average citizens can't afford it, then billionaires can buy up everything for chump change and squeeze that money back out of the populace with absurd rent that nobody will even try to undercut. especially now that anyone with one or more brain cell knows this whole idea of 'checks and balances' only applies to the poor

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

And once people have nothing left to lose and their families are starving they drag the rich into the streets and beat them to death with asphalt torn from the roads. History has repeated this scenario over and over again.

As of 2023 there are 735 billionaires in the US, and 340,000,000 non-billionaires.

[–] ripcord 3 points 15 hours ago

Why hasn't this happened in Russia?